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Do We Really Need to Be Saved? - Renew.org 2025 · The gospel is not denial of human fallenness. It is salvation from
"Fallenness" means the state of being fallen, degraded, or in a state of moral or spiritual decline. In a religious context, it is often a theological term referring to humanity's state after the biblical "Fall," where sin entered the world, resulting in a universal need for redemption.
Due to the fall of man, every part of a person—mind, emotions, and WILL—
is corrupted by sin and is incapable of saving themselves
or of doing anything to please God on their own.
It is a FACT that the world is populated mostly of dust-earthy or aborigines. You are wasting MILLIONS trying to make disciples but spend your "worship" time preaching your own words and singing your own songs and fleecing the poor. Those IN the world but not OF the World are sheep that have been
scattered. If you obey the DIRECT COMMAND to GO into the World and enlist disciples they will recognize the election or CALLED OUT SO THAT:
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received HIS WORD were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
GOD USED A WORD USED OF PAGAN GODS: HERE IS WHAT PEOPLE DO WHEN THE HATE (PROVEN) THE WORD OF GOD
Acts 21:14 And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done.
Eph. 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Logos computation, reckoning 2. statement of a theory, argument, ouk emeu alla tou l. akousantas prob. in Heraclit.50; logon ēde noēma amphis alētheiēs discourse and reflection on reality,
IV. inward debate of the soul, reflection, deliberation
Regulative and formative forces, derived from the intelligible and operative in the sensible universe,
Opposite to epithumia
A. desire, yearning, longing after a thing, desire of or for it, Theaomai :--gaze at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder, 3. view as spectators
Opposite Pathos A. that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident, Moralizing Rhetoric
Opposite Poiein to excite passion, Arist.Rh.1418a12; V. Rhet., emotional style or treatment,
Opposite Enthousi-astikos , ē, on, A. inspired, “phusis” Pl.Ti.71e; esp. by music,
Prose, OPPOSITE -poiêsis, Id.R.390a;
OPPOSITE -poiêtikê, D.H.Comp.6; OPPOSITE poiêmata, onomatopoeic word
OPPOSITE emmetra Modus 2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode:Mūsĭcus a, um, adj., = mousikos.
X. the Word or Wisdom of God, personified as his agent in creation and world-government,
Theologians are doomed to call God a liar or INCOMPETENT. If God had wanted any kind of music in the tuneful sense He was INTELLIGIBLE But denied by C. Leonard Allen.
mousikos kai melōn poētēs” 2. generally, votary of the Muses, The Muses were the LOCUSTS unleashed with Apollon their "musical worship leaders." The Greek and Latin literature identifies them as dirty adulteresses
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[25] the Muses of Olympus, daughters of Zeus who holds the aegis: “Shepherds of the wilderness,
wretched things of shame, mere bellies,
we know how to speak many false things as though they were true;
but we know, when we will, to utter true things.”
...and they bade me sing of the race of the blessed gods that are eternally,
but ever to sing of themselves both first and last.
pharma^kon 3. enchanted potion, philtre: hence, charm, spell, Od.4.220 sq., Ar.Pl.302, [Circe, Church, Corinth mother of harlots] Theoc.2.15
The singers [Muses], instrument players and craftsmen as sorcerers in Revelation 18.
Matt. 13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
Matt. 13:38 The field is the WORLD;
the good seed are the children of the kingdom;
but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of [FROM] God
Gen. 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
epi-strephō , c.. Philos., cause to return to the source of Being, “tinas eis ta enantia kai ta prōta”Jesus teaches that those who enter into His Kingdom must RETURN and become as little children. No child is depraved because Adam and Eve were taught how to be EVIL instead of GOODb.. Pass., to be converted, return, “epi Kurion” LXXDe.30.2; intr., repent, ib.Ju.5.19, al., Ev.Matt.13.15,Ev.Luc.22.32, etc.c.. Philos., cause to return to the source of Being, “tinas eis ta enantia kai ta prōta” Plot. 5.1.1; “ti pros tagathon”
nātīvĭtas , ātis, f. nativus, I.birth, nativity (post-class.; cf. “ortus): municipem aut nativitas aut adoptio facit,
Return to their NATIVITY BE Converted or being Baptized.
For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 1 Pet 4:17
And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 1 Pet 4:18
What is this nonsense that they CANNOT obey when Scripture keeps preaching that we repent and obey day by day?
Wherefore, let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator. 1 Peter 4:19
What is this nonesense when, according to Calvinism, they CANNOT commit their souls to Him in well doing? What if they DO NOT keep on faithfully committing their souls?
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: 2 Pet 1:10
God marks baptized believers with a SEAL and no one can cause God's guarantee to fail. However, the message of the Word is that we have to COMMIT our souls to him continually
THAT MAKES THE DEVIL ABLE TO UNDO ALL OF THE WORK OF GOD: SURELY ONE MUST HATE GOD.
Scripture is filled with individuals called JUST or RIGHTEOUS meaning that a Holy God
is pleased and is not going to pick on them
Psa. 15:2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
Psa. 15:3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour,
nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour. [Nor Historic congregations who feed him]
Psa. 15:4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned;
but he honoureth them that fear the LORD.
He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.
Is. 64:4 For since the beginning [time out of mind (past or future) of the world men have not heard,
nor perceived by the ear, neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee,
what he hath prepared for him that WAITETH for him.
WAITETH g5769. עוֹלָם ꜥowlam, o-lawm´; or עֹלָם ꜥolam, o-lawm´; from 5956; properly, concealed, i.e. the vanishing point; generally, time out of mind (past or future), i.e. (practically) eternityIs. 64:5 Thou meetest HIM that rejoiceth and worketh righteousness, those that remember thee in thy ways:
behold, thou art wroth; for WE have sinned: in those is continuance, and we shall be saved.
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him
The SUBJECT is Jews (Or Christians) who thought-think that by LADED BURDENS they are made righteoud.
PAUL IS SPEAKING OF BAPTISM FOR THE REMISSION OF SIN AND ENTRANCE INTO THE NEW INVISIBLE-INAUDIBLE CHURCH OF CHRIST WHICH MEETS ONCE EACH WEEK IN SILENT AND SECRET PLACES.
Because God is not egotistical, He never called a single person or group, on their REST DAY, to satisfy Him by preaching, listening, singing, playing instruments, acting, planning their MINISTRY or PAY TO PLAY.
God Quarantined the people from Jerusalem (worship of the astrial deities) and met for the only PATTERN:
NEITHER JESUS, PAUL NOR CHURCH HISTORY PROVIDE ANY FUNDING BY LAW.
YOU HAVE TO "GO" SUFFER AND DIE TO ENLISTS STUDENTS INTO THE SCHOOL OF CHRIST. DISCIPLES ARE STUDENT AND THEY ATTEND THE SCHOOL OF CHRIST ONLY.
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"These are Paul's words. Let them, then, show us that they are ministers of the gospel, and I will have no difficulty in conceding their right to stipend."The ox must not be muzzled that treadeth out the corn [1 Cor. 9:9]. But is it not altogether at variance with reason that the ploughing oxen should starve, and THE LAZY ASSES BE FED?
For their opinion is, that the desperate condition of the church makes it vain to attempt remedies, there being no hope of cure;
and they hence conclude that the best course is not to meddle with an evil well fixed.
Those who speak in this way understand not that the restoration of the church is the work of God, and no more depends on the hopes and opinions of men, than the resurrection of the dead, or any other miracle of that descriptio
We can reject THE PATTERN or we can ACCEPT IT: FREE WILL!
Is. 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Is. 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow
Is. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Is. 1:19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
Is. 1:20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. "A" holy spirit
Acts 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off,
even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Is. 54:13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
1Chr. 16:26 For all the gods of the people are idols:
but the LORD made the heavens.
Jer. 11:10 They are TURNED BACK to the iniquities of their forefathers,
which REFUSED to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them:
the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
Psa. 7:9 Oh let the wickedness of the wicked come to an end; but establish the just:
for the righteous God trieth the hearts and reins.
Psa. 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Psa. 14:5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.
Psa. 68:3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice.
Prov. 21:12 The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked:
but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.
Mal. 3:18 Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked,
between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.
Rom. 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law,
do by nature the things contained in the law, these,
having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom. 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, t
heir conscience also bearing witness,
and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Gen. 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.Psa. 106:30 Then stood up Phinehas, and executed judgment: and so the plague was stayed.
Gen. 6:9 These are the generations of Noah:
Noah was a JUST man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
JUST: 6662. צַדִּיק tsaddiyq, tsad-deek´; from 6663; just:—just, lawful, righteous (man).
Psa. 106:31 And that was counted unto him for righteousness unto all generations for evermore.
Eccl. 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright;
but THEY HAVE SOUGHT OUT many inventions. [Not ALL men]
1John 3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
1John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil;
for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested,
that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Luke 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luke 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
David young does not list passages in Biblical order, so I might not have covered them all.
Holy Scripture never passes the blame!
Is. 59:2 But YOUR INIQUITIES have separated between you and your God,
and YOUR SINS have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
Jer. 5:25 YOUR INIQUITIES have turned away these things, and YOUR SINS have withholden good things from you.
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that YOUR SINS may be blotted out,
when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord
BASED ON DIRECT COMMANDS AND BIBLICAL EXAMPLES, ANYTHING BEYOND A WEEKLY SCHOOL OF THE WORD IMPOSED BY MEN'S INIQUITIES
INIQUITIES: unreasonable demands in the shape of taxes [tithes and offerings], calumniantium, your unreasonable demands, "To calumniate means to make false and malicious statements about someone to injure their reputation;"https://www.pineycom.com/Church.of.Christ.Pattern.html
MANY calumniates by claiming that people who reject "music" to replace "speaking" are legalists, sectarian.
FIXED: CLICK BELOW to see that even singing is rejected to enable LEARNING
I HAVE INDEXED EACH EACH SECTION SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK BEFORE YOU DISMISS IT
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 But in every nation HE that FEARETH HIM, AND WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS, IS ACCEPTED WITH HIM.
And able to be baptized
G1343. δικαιοσύνη dikaiosune, dik-ah-yos-oo´-nay; from 1342; equity (of character or act); specially (Christian) justification: — righteousnesOUR UNDERSTANDING OF DAVID YOUNG'S THEOLOGY OF EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE SAVED
CLICK BELOW: THE WORLD-KOSMOS OF SATIN IS IN DARKNESS: THE "HEAVENLY" IS SMALL ENCLAVE.
CLICK BELOW: DON'T GET MISLEAD BY PROOF TEXTING ROMANS: ALL ARE JEWS AND GENNTILES
CLICK BELOW: JOHN CALVIN REFUTES DAVID YOUNG'S CLAIM FOR HOLY SPIRIT GUIDANCE.
1Cor. 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
CLICK BELOW: JOHN CALVIN ON THE PURPOSE OF ADULT BAPTISM1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an advocate [Holy Spirit Paraclete]
with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteou
Infant sprinkling does not remove oriiginal sin.
CLICK BELOW: JOHN WESLEY CALVINISTS FANCY THEMSELVES THE ELECT.
CLICK BELOW: DAVID YOUNG'S FALSE REFORMED THEOLOGY INFILTRATING CHURCHES FROM PLATO
1 The gnomic poets complain that bad men prosper for a time, but they have faith in the late punishment of the wicked and the final triumph of justice.CLICK BELOW: DAVID YOUNG" GOD SAVES US FROM "FALLENNESS": SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD SAVES US FROM OUR SINS
CLICK BELOW: HOLY SCRIPTURE: FALLENNESS OR DEPRAVITY REFUTED
All sinners in Holy Scripture take responsibility for their own sin.
CLICK BELOW: SIN DIDN'T ENTER EITHER ADAM OR EVE BUT THE WORLD ENCLAVE.
Neither Jesus nor the pilgrims and sojourners are OF the World.
CLICK BELOW: JESUS WAS TRAINED IN THE HEAVENLY ENCLAVE BEFORE SENT INTO THE WORLD ENCLAVE.
CLICK BELOW: THE PEOPLE FROM THE WORLD ENCLAVE WORSHIP THE BEAST
CLICK BELOW: JESUS ONLY SPOKE THE WORDS OF GOD: SPIRIT WITHOUT METRON OR MUSIC
CLICK BELOW: MUSIC REPLACING SPEAKING THE WORD [c ad1500] IS ABOMINABLE AND REPROBATE
CLICK BELOW: END-TIME MUSICAL WORSHIP LEADERS REPEAT SERPENT WORSHIP
CLICK BELOW: WORLD ENCLAVE PEOPLE A FALLEN NATURE SLANDERS A HOLY GOD.
THE WORLD-KOSMOS OF SATIN IS IN DARKNESS: THE "HEAVENLY" IS SMALL ENCLAVE.
THE WORLD SPHERE OCCUPIES THE WHOLE WORLD: IT IS THE KOSMOS OR KINGDOM OF THE DEVIL.
THE HEAVENLY SPHERE IS A SMALL ENLAVE IN THE WORLD BUT NOT OF THE WORLD.
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Isaiah 4: 5 And the Lord will create upon
every dwelling place of mount Zion,
and upon her assemblies [Invoco called]], a cloud and smoke by day,
and the shining of a flaming fire by night:
for upon all the glory shall be a defence.
Isaiah 4:6 And there shall be a tabernacle for a shadow in the daytime from the heat,
and for a place of refuge,
and for a covert from storm and from rain.
umbrācŭlum , I. any thing that furnishes shade). I Lit., a shady place, bower, arbor,Verg. E. 9, 42.— B. Transf., a school: “in solem et pulverem, ut e Theophrasti doctissimi hominis umbraculis,” Cic. Brut. 9, 37: “ex umbraculis eruditorum in solem atque in pulverem,” id. Leg. 3, 6, 14.—II. A sunshade, parasol, umbrella, Ov. F. 2, 311; id. A. A. 2, 209; Mart. 14, 28, 1;
First: A solitary place to protect the vines against the sun to dŏcĕo to speak to instruct a subject to moral humans in the umbrācŭlum
Second: eruditorum to eduate, instruct, opposite popular orato, in a solem or solitary place, and where "vines" are protected from the sun. “in his (scholis) Leisure given to learning, a learned conversation or debate, a disputation, lecture, dissertation, 1. A place for learned conversation or instruction, a place of learning, a school . The disciples or followers of a teacher, a school, sect:
A covert sēcūrĭtas FROM perturbatione, “securitas inaffectatae orationis,” quietness,
from Operosus , costs much trouble, troublesome, toilsome, laborious, difficult, elaborate , costly, sumptuous Temple, from “carmina, [vocal or instrumental music] ” elaborate, Hor. C. 4, 2, 31 “artes,” skill in constructing, profession as music, “rhetorica,” Quint. 2, 17, 4: “musica,” poetry, Ter. Hec. prol. 23: “musica,” music, ars oratoris, oratoris autem omnis actio opinionibus,
3. in later Gr., = oikoumenē, the known or inhabited world. men in general esp. of the world as estranged from God by sin
5. houtos ho k. this present world, i.e. earth, opp. heaven, Ev.Jo.13.1; regarded as the kingdom of evil, ho arkhōn tou k. toutouWORLD: kosmos 2. good order, good behaviour, = kosmiotēs Phld.Mus. p.43 K.; d
3. in later Gr., = oikoumenē, the known or inhabited world
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infernus , II. In partic., underground, belonging to the Lower Regions, infernal: “rex,” Pluto, Verg. A. 6, 106: “Juno,” Proserpine, id. ib. 6, 138: “sedes,” id. ib. 8, 244: “tenebrae,” id. ib. 7, 325: “infernas umbras carminibus elicere,” to raise the dead by magical incantations, Tac. A. 2, 28:
carmen modi melody I. In gen., a tune, song, air, lay, strain, note, sound, both vocal and instrumental
I. In gen., a tune, song, air, lay, strain, note, sound, both vocal and instrumental
mŏdus NEVER IN HOLY SCRIPTURE 2. The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode: “vocum, “musici,”
The letter of Conrad Grebel ad his friends at Zurich to Thomas Miinzer,
Secondly, since SINGING in Latin grew up without divine instruction and apostolic example and custom, without producing good or edifying, it will still [93] less edify in German and will create a faith consisting in mere outward seeming.
Thirdly, Paul even clearly forbids SINGING in Eph. 5, and Col. 3, since he says and teaches that they are to SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER and TEACH one another WITH psalms and spiritual songs,
AND if anyone would SING, he should SING and give thanks IN his heart.
Sin entered into the WORLD: An ENCLAVE INCLUDING all of the DUST, EARTHLY, ABORIGINES, SIN DID NOT ENTER EVE'S DNA
Children are not born into the ENCLAVE of Satam
Jesus was born in the HEAVENLY ENCLAVE 30 years before God "Made him to be both lord and Christ.
Luke 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me?
wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature,
and in favour with God and man.
David Young seems to say that little infants are born into the DARK world of Satan. Plato shows that the JUST cannot be tempted will not be rich and popular but despized.
It is true that the masses who sell themselves as righteous trip on their arrogance.
Gen. 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Gen. 49:11 Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass’s colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:
Mic. 5:2 But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose GOINGS FORTH have been from of old, from EVERLASTING
h3117. יוֹם yowm, yome; from an unused root meaning to be hot; a day (as the warm hours), whether literal (from sunrise to sunset, continuallyGOINGS FORTH: h4163. מוֹצָאָה mowtsaʾah, mo-tsaw-aw´; feminine of 4161; a FAMILYY DESCENT; also a sewer (marg.; compare 6675):—draught house; going forth.
GOINGS FORTH: ĭnĭtĭo , to begin, initiate, consecrate, admit originate
II. To initiate, consecrate, or ADMIT TO SECRET RELIGIOUS RITES. To baptize (eccl. Lat.)
Matt. 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Col. 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for,
behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Luke 17:23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.
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John 8:38b and ye DO that which ye have seen with your father.
Devil Do: poiētai 4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23, 4.14; “p. theogoniēn
Epos joined with muthos, 1. song or lay accompanied by music, 8.91,17.519.
2. fiction (opp. logos, historic truth), THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLEJohn 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed;
but ye seek to kill me, because my WORD hath no place in you.
John 8:38 I SPEAK that which I have seen with my Father:
and ye DO that which ye have seen with your father.
Devil Do: poiētai 4. after Hom., of Poets, compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23, 4.14; “p. theogoniēn
OF PAGANISM “p. tina hōs hieron kai thaumaston” I. filled with or manifesting divine power, supernatural Kirkēs 'faery II. of divine things, holy, “hierois en dōmasi Kirkēs hiero-doulos Strab. 8.6.20 esp. of templecourtesans [prostitutes] at Corinth and elsewhere, Str.8.6.20, 6.2.6; also of men, Id.11.4.7, al. thaumastos A.wonderful, marvellous LYING WONDER prosku^n-eō
make obeisance to the gods or their images, fall down and worship,
LXX Ge.24.26, al., Ev.Matt.2.2, 11, Ev.Jo.4.23, Worship in Scripture is Falling on your face in Reverence and Godly fear1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was OF that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him?
Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
2Cor. 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
John 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my wo
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it
John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:46 ¶Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
John 8:47 He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.
DON'T GET MISLEAD BY PROOF TEXTING ROMANS: THE "ALL" ARE JEWS AND GENTILES
Rom. 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before
God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
Heb. 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.Rom. 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law
do by nature the things contained in the law, these,
having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
Rom. 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts,
their conscience also bearing witness,
and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Rom. 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles,
which followed not after righteousness,
have attained to righteousness,
even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom. 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written,Rom. 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the LAW OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
The just shall live by faith.
Rom. 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested,
being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Gal. 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law,
but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ,
that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law:
for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of JUST men made PERFECT,
hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom. 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law.
For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Rom. 9:33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence:
and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
Rom. 10:1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.
Rom. 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
Rom. 10:3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness,
and going about to establish their own righteousness,
have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
Rom. 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Rom. 10:5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law,
That the man which doeth those things shall live by them
JOHN CALVIN REFUTES DAVID YOUNG'S CLAIM FOR HOLY SPIRIT GUIDANCE.
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JOHN CALVIN: For the Lord has so knit together the certainty of his word and his Spirit, that our minds are duly imbued with reverence for the word when the Spirit shining upon it enables us there to behold the face of God; and, on the other hand, we embrace the Spirit with no danger of delusion when we recognise him in his image, that is, in his word. Thus, indeed, it is. God did not produce his word before men for the sake of sudden display, intending to abolish it the moment the Spirit should arrive;
How is this answered by those swelling enthusiasts, in whose idea the only true illumination consists, in carelessly laying aside, and bidding adieu to the Word of God, while, with no less confidence than folly, they fasten upon any dreaming notion which may have casually sprung up in their minds?
Surely a very different sobriety becomes the children of God.
As they feel that without the Spirit of God they are utterly devoid of the light of truth,
so they are not ignorant that the word is the instrument by which the illumination of the Spirit is dispensed.
They know of no other Spirit than the one who dwelt and spake in the apostles--the Spirit by whose oracles they are daily invited to the hearing of the word.
Is. 11:2 And the SPIRIT of the LORD shall rest upon him,
the SPIRIT of WISDOM and UNDERSTANDING,
the SPIRIT of COUNSEL and MIGHT,
the SPIRIT of KNOWLEDGE
and [SPIRIT] of the FEAR of the LORD;
John 6:63 It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.
JOHN CALVIN ON THE PURPOSE OF ADULT BAPTISM
And hence, even infants bring their condemnation with them from their mother's womb, for although they have not yet brought forth the fruits of their unrighteousness, they have its seed included in them. Nay, their whole nature is, as it were, a seed of sin, and, therefore, cannot but be odious and abominable to God.
The first object, therefore, for which it is appointed by the Lord, is to be a sign and evidence of our purification, or (better to explain my meaning)it is a kind of sealed instrument by which he assures us that all our sins are so deleted, covered, and effaced, that they will never come into his sight, never be mentioned, never imputed.Hence those who have thought that baptism is nothing else than the badge and mark by which we profess our religion before men, in the same way as soldiers attest their profession by bearing the insignia of their commander, have not attended to what was the principal thing in baptism;For it is his will that all who have believed be baptised for the remission of sins (Matt. 28:19; Acts 2:38).and this is, that we are to receive it in connection with the promise, "He that believeth and is baptised shall be saved," (Mark 16: 16.)2. Its virtue not in water without the Word
In this sense is to be understood the statement of Paul, that "Christ loved the Church,
and gave himself for it, that he might sanctify and cleanse
it with the washing of water by the word," (Eph. 5: 25, 26;)
and again, "not by works of righteousness which we have done,
but according to his mercy he saved us,
by the washing of regeneration
and renewing of the Holy Ghost," (Titus 3: 5.) Peter also says that "baptism also does now save us," (1 Peter 3: 21.)
For he did not mean to intimate that our ablution and salvation are perfected by water,or that water possesses in itself the virtue of purifying, regenerating, and renewing;
nor does he mean that it is the cause of salvation,[Calvin uses the word "procure" and water does not procure salvation]but only that the knowledge and certainty of such gifts are perceived in this sacrament.
JOHN WESLEY CALVINISTS FANCY THEMSELVES THE ELECT.
John Wesley
"Throughout every part of this appointment of God, promise and duty go hand in hand. All is free gift; and yet,"such is the gift, that it depends in the final issue on our future obedience to the heavenly call. "
But other predestination than this, either to life or death eternal, the Scripture knows not of:
moreover,
1. It is cruel respect of persons; an unjust regard of one, and an unjust disregard of another: it is mere creature partiality, and not infinite justice.
2. It is not plain Scripture doctrine, (if true,) but rather inconsistent with
the express written word that speaks of God's universal offers of grace;
his invitations, promises, threatenings, being all general.
3. We are bid to choose life, and reprehended for not doing it.
4. It is inconsistent with a state of probation in those that must be saved, or must be lost.
5. It is of fatal consequence; all men being ready, on very slight grounds, to fancy themselves of the elect number.
DAVID YOUNG'S REFORMED THEOLOGY INFILTRATING CHURCHES FROM PLATO
Total Depravity: Every aspect of a person is corrupted by sin,
leaving them spiritually unable to choose God on their own.
David Quotes from Plato to prove that if one had a ring to make themselves invisible, the JUST and the UNJUST would be forced to use that power for all kinds of evil.
This is REFUTED but agrees that if the JUST refuse to steal, murder and fornicate he will not be popular and will suffer
Republic [364b] and disregard those who are in any way weak or poor, even while admitting that they are better men than the others. But the strangest of all these speeches are the things they say about the gods1 and virtue, how so it is that the gods themselves assign to many good men misfortunes and an evil life but to their opposites a contrary lot; and begging priests2 and soothsayers go to rich men's doors and make them believe that they by means of sacrifices and incantations have accumulated a treasure of power from the gods3 that can expiate and cure with pleasurable festivals
Plat. Rep. 2.364a employed by both laymen and poets. All with one accord reiterate that soberness and righteousness are fair and honorable, to be sure, but unpleasant and laborious, while licentiousness and injustice are pleasant and easy to win and are only in opinion and by convention disgraceful. They say that injustice pays better than justice, for the most part, and they do not scruple to felicitate bad men who are rich or have other kinds of power to do them honor in public and private, and to dishonor
1 The gnomic poets complain that bad men prosper for a time, but they have faith in the late punishment of the wicked and the final triumph of justice.
2 There is a striking analogy between Plato's language here and the description by Protestant historians of the sale of indulgences by Tetzel in Germany. Rich men's doors is proverbial. Cf. 489 B.
3 Cf. Mill, “Utility of Religion,”Three Essays on Religion, p. 90: “All positive religions aid this self-delusion. Bad religions teach that divine vengeance may be bought off by offerings or personal abasement.” Plato, Laws 885 D, anticipates Mill. With the whole passage compare the scenes at the founding of Cloudcuckootown, Aristophanes Birds 960-990, and more seriously the medieval doctrine of the “treasure of the church” and the Hindu tapas.Plat. Rep. 2.364c any misdeed of a man or his ancestors, and that if a man wishes to harm an enemy, at slight cost he will be enabled to injure just and unjust alike, since they are masters of spells and enchantments [epōdē]DAVID YOUNG: This good behavior is encouraged by what REFORMED THEOLOGY calls God’s common grace, which is similar to Glaucon’s restraints of consequences. God has graciously given us earthly institutions that habituate us toward good lives and restrain our dark sides.
that constrain the gods to serve their end.
And for all these sayings they cite the poets as witnesses, with regard to the
ease and plentifulness of vice, quoting:“ Evil-doing in plenty a man shall find for the seeking;
1 In Laws 933 D both are used of the victim with epōdais, which primarily applies to the god. Cf. Lucan, Phars. vi. 492 and 527.
epōdē , Ion. and poet. epa^oidē , hē, A. song sung to or over: hence, enchantment, spell
“ou pros iatrou sophou thrēnein epōdas pros tomōnti pēmati” S.Aj. 582 of the Magi
oute pharmaka.[Revelation 18 SORCERY] .oud' au epōdai” Pl.R. 426b
Pi.N.7.81 Pindar, Nemean Odes 7
The rich man and the poor man alike travel together to the boundary of death. [20]
And I expect that the story of Odysseus came to exceed his experiences,
through the sweet songs of Homer
[22] since there is a certain solemnity in his lies and winged artfulness,
and poetic skill deceives, seducing us with stories,
and the heart of the mass of men is blind.
For if [25] they had been able to see the truth, then mighty Aias, in anger over the arms, would never have planted in his chest the smooth sword—Aias, who was the most powerful in battle,
Consistent with David's Doctorate:DAVID YOUNG QUOTES FROM PLATO'S REPUBLIC TO PROVE THAT IF ONE COULD MAKE THEMSELVES INVISIBLE BOTH THE JUST AND UNJUST WOULD COMMIT MURDER OF A KING, SEDUCE HIS WIFE AND STEAL HIS KINGDOM.
"REFORMED THEOLOGY is a branch of Protestantism that originated in the 16th-century Reformation, emphasizing God's sovereignty, the authority of Scripture, and God's grace in salvation. It is also known as Calvinism and is often identified with key tenets such as the Five Solas (Scripture alone, grace alone, Christ alone, faith alone, glory to God alone) and the Five Points of Calvinism (TULIP). Key ideas include total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and the perseverance of the saint
“Common grace is the grace of God by which he gives people innumerable blessings that are not part of salvation. The word common here means something that is common to all people and is not restricted to believers or to the elect only.”
Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Titus 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
DAVID YOUNG: There was a shepherd boy in the hills of Lydia who once stumbled upon a large bronze horse as well as a corpse with a ring on its finger. The shepherd boy took the ring, put it on his own finger, and soon realized that when he turned its gem towards himself, he became invisible. So what does the shepherd boy do? Using his newfound power, he seduces the queen, kills the king, and seizes the throne of Lydia.
CONCLUSION: AND THE "JUST" WOULD ALSO BECAUSE IN OUR NEW CHURCH YOU CAN'T STAND BEING MARKED AS A PATTERNIST. IN FACT, THE JUST FLEE BABYLON.
I WILL LINK THE ORIGINAL Plat. Rep. 2.359e Plat. Rep. 2.360a Plat. Rep. 2.360b
Plat. Rep. 2.360c and enter into houses and lie with whom he pleased, and slay and loose from bonds whomsoever he would, and in all other things conduct himself among mankind as the equal of a god.1 And in so acting he would do no differently from the other man [just], but both would pursue the same course. And yet this is a great proof, one might argue, that no one is just of his own will but only from constraint, in the belief that justice is not his personal good, inasmuch as every man, when he supposes himself to have the power to do wrong, does wrong.
Plat. Rep. 2.360d For that there is far more profit for him personally in injustice than in justice is what every man believes, and believes truly, as the proponent of this theory will maintain.
For if anyone who had got such a licence within his grasp should refuse to do any wrong
or lay his hands on others' possessions, [Congregation]
he would be regarded as most PITIABLE 1 and a great fool by all who took note of it,2
though they would praise him3 before one another's faces, deceiving one another because of their fear of suffering injustice.
So much for this point.
Not EVERYONE is Corrupt.
NOTE 360D - 362CPlat. Rep. 9.577d “the man resembles the state, must not the same proportion1 obtain in him, and his soul teem2 with boundless servility and illiberality, the best and most reasonable parts of it being enslaved, while a small part,
The other wishful not to be esteemed, but to be, good, and labouring until he dies under the imputation of the worst injustice, although he remains just. Only by means of this supposition can we make sure
that the just man has not been attracted by the rewards of justice, but by justice itself. What will be the result?
The JUST will be wholly miserable and unsuccessful,
the UNJUST wholly prosperous and happy, doing good to their friends and evil to their foes; nay more, the unjust will be dearer to the gods than the just, because they have wherewith to win their favour.
the worst and the most frenzied, plays the despot?” “Inevitably,” he said. “Then will you say that such a soul is enslaved or free?” “Enslaved, I should suppose.”
“Again, does not the enslaved and tyrannized city least of all do what it really wishes3?” “Decidedly so.” “Then the tyrannized soul—
[577e] to speak of the soul as a whole1—also will least of all do what it wishes, but being always perforce driven and drawn by the gadfly of desire it will be full of confusion and repentance.2” “Of course.” “And must the tyrannized city be rich or poor?” “Poor.” “Then the tyrant soul also must of necessity always be needy1 and suffer from unfulfilled desire
DAVID YOUNG: GOD SAVES US FROM DEPRAVITY: SCRIPTURE SAYS GOD SAVES US FROM OUR SINS
DAVID YOUNG: Thank God that Jesus saves. He saves us from OUR FALLENESS from sin and its consequences as well as from guilt and God’s wrath. This is the good news of the gospel: Jesus saves.
Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 But in every nation HE that FEARETH HIM, AND WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS, IS ACCEPTED WITH HIM.
G1343. δικαιοσύνη dikaiosune, dik-ah-yos-oo´-nay; from 1342; equity (of character or act); specially (Christian) justification: — righteousness.A Righteous person of faith must be baptized to receive A holy Spirit withou which he cannot read BLACK TEXT on BROWN Paper ( 2 Cor. 3
A JUST OR RIGHTEOUS IS A BELIEVER WHO LIVES RIGHT. HOWEVER, ONLY BAPTIZED PEOPLE ARE GIVEN "A" HOLY SPIRIT AND ADDED TO THE CHURCH WHICH IS A SCHOOL OF THE WORD
Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, [CHURCH OF CHRIST]
which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of JUST men MADE PERFECT,
Col. 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness,
and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:Luke 10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice,NO EXCUSES!
because your names are written in heaven.
Gen. 18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner,
to slay the righteous with the wicked:
and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee:
Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Luke 11:4 And forgive us OUR SINS; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us.
And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
1Cor. 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received,
how that Christ died for OUR SINS according to the scriptures;
Gal. 1:4 Who gave himself for OUR SINS that he might
deliver us from this present evil world, [ENCLAVE] according to the will of God and our Father:
1John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
REAL SCRIPTURE:SCRIPTURE NEVER BLAMES ADAM BUT THE SINNER. HE SINS BECAUSE HE IS A
Psa. 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy HOLY SPIRIT FROM HIM
Is. 63:10 But they REBELLED, and VEXED HIS HOLY SPIRIT:
therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Is. 63:11 Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying,
Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock?
Where is he that put HIS HOLY SPIRIT WITHIN HIM?
SINNER.
John 9:24 Then again called they the man that was blind, and said unto him,
Give God the praise: we know that THIS MAN IS A SINNER.
James 5:20 Let him know, that he which CONVERTETH THE SINNER FROM THE ERROR OF HIS WAY
shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
1Pet. 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved,
where shall the ungodly and THE SINNER
HOLY SCRIPTURE: FALLENNESS OR DEPRAVITY REFUTED
DAVID YOUNG: In Jesus, the curse of OUR fallenness is eternally reversed. By his wounds we are healed (Isaiah 53:5). His death atones for our sins (Romans 3:25). His death redeems us (Hebrews 9:12). His sufferings empower us to live for rightness (1 Peter 2:24). The gospel is not denial of human fallenness. It is salvation from it
"Fallenness" means the state of being fallen, degraded, or in a state of moral or spiritual decline. In a religious context, it is often a theological term referring to humanity's state after the biblical "Fall," where sin entered the world, resulting in a universal need for redemption.
We are delivered from the Jews's claim that Gentiles are CEREMONIAL IMPURITY and unabled from Baptism without circumcision and becoming a Jew.
Rom. 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God:
but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
Rom. 9:9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son.
Rom. 9:10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
Rom. 9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil,
that the purpose of God according to election might stand,
not of works, but of him that calleth;)
Rom. 9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
God showed MERCY through whom the seed would. God did not cause Esau to be DEPRAVED
Gal. 4:21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
Gal. 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons,
the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
Gal. 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh;
but he of the freewoman was by promise.
Gal. 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants;
the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
Gal. 4:25 For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
Gal. 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
JESUS NEVER CAUSES THE FALLENESS
THE OLD TESTAMENT IS FILLED WITH RIGHTEOUS MEN AND NOT ONE IS GIVEN AN EXCUSE TO JUSTIFY HIMSELF.
Is. 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief:
and WE HID as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and WE ESTEEMED HIM NOT
Is. 53:4 Surely he hath borne OUR griefs, and carried OUR sorrows:
yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Is. 53:5 But he was wounded for OUR TRANSGRESSIONS, he was bruised for OUR INIQUITIES :
the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in YOUR SINS:
for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in YOUR SINS
Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that YOUR SINS may be blotted out,
when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
1Cor. 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in YOUR SINS
Col. 2:13 And you, being dead in YOUR SINS and the uncircumcision of your flesh,
hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
David seems to define Calvin' BLASPHEMY OF---
Total Depravity: Every aspect of a person is corrupted by sin, leaving them spiritually unable to choose God on their own.
Total Depravity - As a result of Adam’s fall, the entire human race is affected; all humanity is dead in trespasses and sins. Man is unable to save himself (Genesis 6:5; Jeremiah 17:9; Romans 3:10-18)
THESE BECAME DEPRAVED WITH A FREE WILL..
Gen. 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them,
he same became MIGHTY MEN which were of old, men of renown.
h1368. גִּבּוֹר gibbowr, ghib-bore´; or (shortened) גִּבֹּר gibbor, ghib-bore´; intensive from the same as 1397; powerful; by implication, warrior, tyrant:—champion, chief, x excel, giant, man, mighty (man, one), strong (man), valiant man.Gen. 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth,
The Ghebers of Hebron 2 Hoaea, xii. 4 derives the name Israel from Sarah to contend, to fight, and El = God of Fire. — Gen. xxxii. '28. Asarians, Asriel, Israel, a name of the War god {Exodus, xiii. 21, 22, xiv. 25), Saturn and the Sun. The Fire-god Azar was the God of war, and M'irs was the Sun. — Macrob. I. xvii. OS
But these fire-worshippers carried with them the arks of Moloch and Khiun (Life-god), their Adon, and they had, like the other peoples of the Delta, their Mysteries, which the priests instituted. They took with them from Phoenicia, probably, a certain knowledge of fixed vocal signs; and it would not be safe to deny to Syria the possession of some sort of (Syrian) hieroglyph
WHAT GOD SAW WHAT WAS BROUGHT TO JERUSALEM LATER
Acts 7:41 And they made a calf in those days,
and offered sacrifice unto the idol,
and rejoiced in the works of their own hands
Acts 7:42 Then God turned,
and gave them up to worship the HOST of heaven;
as it is written in the book of the prophets,
O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices
by the space of forty years in the wilderness?
The word for drums is tophim from which the word 'Tophet,' the place mentioned in verses such as Jeremiah 7:31: ''They have built the high place of Tophet... to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire. While drums sounded, bands played, and priests chanted, human sacrifices were devoured in the flames." (Woodrow, p. 72-73)
"Once the music-grove, where Solomon's singers, with voice and instrument, regaled the king, the court and the city; then the temple of Baal, the high place of Moloch, resounding with the cries of burning infants; then (in symbol) the place where is the wailing and gnashing of teeth." (p. 3313-14, four-volume Smith).
and that every IMAGINATION of the THOUGHTS of his heart was only evil continually
Gen. 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Gen. 6:9 These are the generations of Noah:
Noah was a JUST MAN and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Jer. 17:7 Blessed is the man that TRUSTETH in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
BECAUSE:
Jer. 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Romans 3:10-18)
Rom. 3:5 But if OUR unrighteousness commend the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God
Rom. 3:13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
SIN DIDN'T ENTER EITHER ADAM OR EVE BUT THE WORLD ENCLAVE.
Rom. 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin ENTERED INTO THE WORLD, and death by sin;
and so death passed upon all men, for [BECAUSE] THAT ALL HAVE SINNED:
THE HEAVENLY ENCLAVE OCCUPIES THE SAME SPACE AS THE KOSMOS OR WORLD.
NOT BECAUSE ADAM SINNED. The WORLD is the ENCLAVE TAKEN OVER BY THE DEVIL
g2889. κόσμος kosmos, kos´-mos; probably from the base of 2865; orderly arrangement, i.e. decoration; by implication, the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively (morally)): — adorning, world.
kosmos , ho, in later Gr., = oikoumenē, [ECUMENICAL] the known or inhabited world, Ep.Rom.1.8, etc.; ho tou pantos k. kurios, of Nero, IGRom.4.982 (Samos); “ean ton k. holon kerdēsē” Ev.Matt.16.26.4. men in general, “phanerōson seauton tō k.” Ev.Jo.7.4, cf. 12.19; esp. of the world as estranged from God by sin, ib.16.20, 17.9, al., 1 Ep.Cor. 1.21, etc.5. houtos ho k. this present world, i.e. earth, opp. heaven, Ev.Jo.13.1; regarded as the kingdom of evil, ho arkhōn tou k. toutou ib.12.31.V. Pythag.name for six, Theol.Ar.37; for ten, ib.591Cor. 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.John 15:19 If ye were OF THE WORLD would love his own: but because ye are NOT OF THE WORLD,
but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them,
because they are NOT OF THE WORLD,
even as I am NOT OF THE WORLD,
John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is NOT OF THE WORLD,
if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight,
that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is MY KINGDOM IS NOT FROM HENCE
SIN ENTERED INTO THE WORLD
1John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the
flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life,
is not of the Father, but is of the world.
JESUS WAS educated IN THE HEAVENLY ENCLAVE BEFORE SENT INTO THE WORLD ENCLAVE.
God's people live in the HEAVENLY ENCLAVE.
Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein,
seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth,
dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
Acts 17:25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing,
seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;
Acts 17:26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;
Acts 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him,
though he be not far from every one of us:
Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being;
as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we
ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone,
graven by art and man’s device.
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at;
but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Luke 2:49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
Luke 2:50 And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them.
Luke 2:51 And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them:
but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart.
Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.
John 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath SANCTIFIED AND SENT INTO THE WORLD,
Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
Jesus was sanctified or given A holy spirit so that, in these latter days, God spoke through His Son.
Rom. 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
Rom. 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord,
which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
Rom. 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power,
according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Rom. 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship,
for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
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THE PEOPLE FROM WORLD ENCLAVE WORSHIP THE BEAST
The BEAST from the EARTH exerciseth all the POWER of the first BEAST before him,
and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein
to WORSHIP the first BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed. Rev. 13:12
Therap-ōn Mousaōn therapontes” music, song stu^ger-os , Muses (Rev 18) as worshipper, “Apollōnos” 's Worshiip Team were known as hated prostitutes, 2. gen. hadou [ein' Aidao domoisi in the nether world, with nouns in adjectival sense, devilish, “thuousan ha. mēter'” Erōs Aphroditēs th
thera^p-euō to be an attendant, do service, Dionuson, Mousas, E.Ba.82 OUR, Pi.P.3.109; , IT1105(lyr.); th. Phoibou naous serve them, Id.Ion111 (anap.): abs., worship,
APOLLYON- Phoebus , i, m., = Phoibos (the radiant), I. a poetical appellation of Apollon as the god of light: “quae mihi Phoebus Apollon, Val. Fl. 1, 228: “Circe,” [CHURCH AS WORSHIP CENTER] daughter of Sol, Petr. 135.—
Eur. Ba. 82 Chorus Blessed is he who, being fortunate and knowing the rites of the gods, keeps his life pure and [75] has his soul initiated into the Bacchic revels, dancing in inspired frenzy over the mountains with holy purifications, and who, revering the mysteries of great mother Kybele, [80] brandishing the thyrsos, garlanded with ivy, serves Dionysus.
Go, Bacchae, go, Bacchae, escorting the god Bromius, child of a god, [85] from the Phrygian mountains to the broad streets of Hellas—Bromius,
Mousa II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugera” A.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamos” Id.Supp.695 (lyr.); “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousas
Pind. P. 3 was stricken by the golden [10] arrows of Artemis in her bedroom and descended to the house of Hades, by the skills of APOLLON. The anger of the children of Zeus is not in vain. But she made light of Apollo, in the error of her mind, and consented to another marriage without her father's knowledge, although she had before lain with Phoebus of the unshorn hair
[110] But if a god were to give me luxurious wealth, I hope that I would find lofty fame in the future. We know of Nestor and Lycian Sarpedon, whom men speak of, from melodious words which skilled craftsmen join together. Through renowned songs excellence [115] gains a long life. But few find that easy to accomplish
JESUS SPOKE ONLY THE WORDS OF GOD: SPIRIT WITHOUT METRON OR MUSIC
TOTAL DEPRAVITY AND NOT PERMITTED TO READ AND MAKE UP THEIR SONGS AND SERMONS ACCUSE CHURCHS OF CHRIST OF FORBIDDING MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS WIITH ALL OF THE RACA WORDS.
There is not one person or group ever said to worship God by singing with or without music. Worship often means to FALL on your face in reverence and Godly fear.
John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent
SPEAKETH the WORDS of God: [Regulative Principle outlawing music]
for God GIVETH NOT the Spirit by measure (metron) unto him.
g3358. μέτρον metron, met´-ron; an apparently primary word; a measure (“metre”), literally or figuratively; by implication, a limited portion (degree): — measure.
"The chant of ancient Hebrews was rhythmical, but probably free of fixed meter. Perhaps the only exceptions were the dancing songs of women, usually accompanied by percussion instruments." (Interpreters Dictionary of the Bible, p. 466).John 6:63 It is the SPIRIT that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing:
"While the Greek and Roman songs were metrical, the Christian psalms were anitphons, prayers, responses, etc., were unmetrical; and while the pagan melodies were always sung to an instrumental accompaniment, the church chant was exclusively vocal" (Edward Dickinson, History of Music, p. 54).
"All the music employed in their early services was vocal, and the rhythmic element and all gesticulation were forbidden" (Frank L. Humphreys, The Evolution of Church Music, p. 42).
"One of the developments in which Beza was of great assistance was in Reformed psalmody. Zwingli had opposed music in public worship and it was a century or so after his death before the Reformed Churches in which his influence was strong departed from that precedent. Calvin did not go as far as Zwingli, but confined the use of music to congregational singing in unison of metrical versions of the Psalms and Canticles." (Kenneth Latourette, p. 760).
Aristotle: Melody Deceives: "Poets also make use of this in inventing words, as a melody "without strings" or "without the lyre"; for they employ epithets from negations, a course which is approved in proportional metaphors..
According to Philo, the gods of the pagans exploit this weakness of men.
- The form of diction should be neither metrical nor without rhythm. If it is metrical, it lacks persuasiveness, for it appears artificial, and at the same time it distracts the hearer's attention,
- since it sets him on the watch for the recurrence of such and such a cadence..
For the sake of a better effect,
and with the intention of more easily cheating their devotes,
that they have set their lies to melodies, rhythms and meters.
The WORDS that I SPEAK unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are life.
John 6:64 But there are some of you that believe not.
For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him
MUSIC REPLACING SPEAKING THE WORD IS ABOMINABLE AND CORRUPT
Matt. 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels
ABSOLUTE DIRECT COMMAND:
Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach, EXCEPT THEY BE SENT? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Matt. 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
g32. ἄγγελος aggelos, ang´-el-os; from ἀγγέλλω aggello (probably derived from 71; compare 34) (to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an “angel”; by implication, a pastor: — angel, messenger.
THE CORRUPTION OF CONGREGATIONAL SINGING TO PREVENT SPEAKING THE WORD WAS NEVER DARED TO BE DONE UNTIL AFTER THE REFORMATION:
Angĕlus , i, m., = aggelos. B. In mal. part.: “Diabolus et angeli ejus,” Vulg. Matt. 25, 41: “angelus Satanae,” ib. 2 Cor. 12, 7 al. Aggelos 2. generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Mousōn aggelos, of a poet, Thgn.769; “aggele earos . . khelido
The letter of Conrad Grebel ad his friends at Zurich to Thomas Munzer
"Thomas Müntzer (Muentzer, Muntzer) was perhaps the most controversial figure of the period of the German Reformation, a man who has been called at various times the "beginner of the great Anabaptist movement," the forerunner of modern socialism, the beginner of the mystical-spiritualistic movement in Germany, a religious socialist, the leader in the Peasants' War 1525,
We understand and have seen that thou hast translated the mass into German and hast introduced new German hymns.
That cannot be well, for we find nothing taught in the New Testament about SINGING, no example of it.
Paul scolds the learned Corinthians more than he praises them, because they mumbled in meeting as if they sang, just as the Jews and the Italians chant their words song- fashion.
Secondly, since SINGING in Latin grew up without divine instruction and apostolic example and custom, without producing good or edifying, it will still [93] less edify in German and will create a faith consisting in mere outward seeming.
Thirdly, Paul even clearly forbids SINGING in Eph. 5, and Col. 3, since he says and teaches
that they are to SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER
and TEACH one another WITH psalms and spiritual songs,
AND if anyone would SING, he should SING and give thanks IN his heart.
Mousa , ēs, hē, Aeol. Moisa II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugera” A.Eu.308 (anap.); “euphamos” Id.Supp.695 (lyr.); “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousas” S.Tr.643 (lyr.); “Aiakō moisan pherein” Pi.N.3.28; tis hēde mousa; Mousa , Apollyon's Musical Worship Teams-LocustsDios aigiokhoio thugateres” [Daughters whatever the sex]
[1] MUSICIANS stugeros A .hated, abominated, loathed, or hateful, abominable, loathsome mousa music, song, “m. stugera kanakhan . .
Cor. 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity,
I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
THEIAS etheiazon obtained inspiration through ritual antiluron responding to the lyre or guitar.
Aoidos , ho, (aeidō) A.singer, minstrel, bard THEIOS a
Enchanter, Sorcerer
[2] MUSICIANS “adein [singers are] adokimon mousa
adokimon disreputable, discredited, reprobate,
[3] MUSICIANS They are from Aidēs” Haidēs Aidao domoisi in the nether world to the nether world, 2. place of departed spirits,
2. gen. hadou with nouns in adjectival sense, devilish,
“thuousan ha. mēter'” A.Ag.1235; “ha. mageiros”
thuousan Silenced in Romans 12 so that Worship is Spiritual, rational or teaching the Word, Logos, Regulative Principle only[4] MUSICIANS are FOREORDAINED to this JUDGMENT and a "Locusts" chase the GODLY out.
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[5] MUSICIANS MOCKED
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Jeanene.Reese.LGBT.MUST.be.Included.html
[6] MUSICIANS They Do NOT know God nor Christ
2.John.1.9.The.Doctrine.of.Christ.html
2John 9 Whosoever transgresseth,
and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.
He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ,
he hath both the Father and the Son
END-TIME MUSICAL WORSHIP LEADERS REPEAT SERPENT WORSHIP
They boast about standing in their holy places.
Brandon Scott Thomas: The Holy Spirit is the true worship leader.
Our job as church worship leaders is to
lean completely into His leading.
We cannot force anyone to worship,
all we can do is STAND IN the doorway [holy place] an
invite people into the presence of the Living God.
SAM SOUDER: Our role as worship leaders is to MINISTER to the heart of God Himself
our worship is about HIM and Him alone.
We also serve to BLESS those who gather for worship in OUR services,
not so that they can walk away “satisfied” or “FILLED BY THE MUSIC” ,
but so that SPACE is created for THEM to encounter the living God.
David Young: Music fils you with the Holy Spirit
Clement of Alexandria notes that:
- If a man drags the Deity
- Whither he will by the sound of cymbals,
- He that does this is greater than the Deity;
- But these are the instruments of audacity and
means of living Invented by men."https://www.pineycom.com/naga.html
Gen. 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden
Genesis 3.1 sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus qui dixit ad mulierem cur praecepit vobis Deus ut non comederetis de omni ligno paradisi
h5175 nâchâsh naw-khawsh' From H5172 ; a snake (from its hiss):—serpent.
H5172 nâchash naw-khash' A primitive root; properly to hiss, that is, whisper a (magic) spell; generally to prognosticate:— X certainly, divine, enchanter, (use) X enchantment, learn by experience, X indeed, diligently observe.
SIMON THE SORCERERSerpo , of things, to move slowly or imperceptibly, to creep along, proceed gradually,
Magos [a^, ou, ho, Magian, one of a Median tribe, Hdt.1.101, Str. 15.3.1: hence, as belonging to this tribe,2. one of the priests and wise men in Persia who interpreted dreams, Hdt.7.37, al Ev.Matt.2.1.3. enchanter, wizard, esp. in bad sense, impostor, charlatan, Heraclit.14, S.OT387, E.Or.1498 (lyr.), Pl.R.572e, Act.Ap.13.6, Vett. Val.74.17:II. magos, on, as Adj., magical, “magps tekhnē prattein ti” “kestou phōneusa magōtera”
Of disease, etc.: “si ulcus latius atque altius serpit,” gradually spreads, “serpentes quasdam (bestias), quasdam esse gradientes,” “chamaeleon,
Fire: “exsistit sacer ignis et urit corpore serpens,” slowly spreading, canam, qui leniter
(cf.: “sermones Repentes per humum,”
(poëta A creeping LOUSE
Ignis Incenter or song starter is the fire starter. raving, inspiration, Stat. Ach. 1, 509: “quae simul aethereos animo conceperat ignes, ore dabat pleno carmina vera dei,” Ov. F. 1, 473: “(Dido) caeco carpitur igni,” the secret fire of love, of that which brings destruction, fire, flamecăno , cĕcĭni, cantum , to utter melodious notes, to sing, sound, play.
carmen versus, numeri, modi): carmen tuba ista peregit ( = sonus),” Enn. Ann. 508 Vahl.: “carmine vocali clarus citharāque Philammon,” Ov. M. 11, 317; cf. “vocum,” id. ib. 12, 157: “per me (sc. Apollinem) concordant carmina nervis,
A. Of men: “si absurde canat, “tibia canentum,
C. Transf., of the instruments by which, or (poet.) of the places in which, the sounds are produced, to sound, resound: “canentes tibiae,” “verba ad certos modos,
Canam, exsistit sacer ignis et urit corpore serpens,” slowly spreading fire, bring to destruction, reduce to ruin, destroy
Agmĕna crowded into a compact mass, Of a snake winding onwards Eap. of a company of persons, a multitude, troop, crowd, number, band
1. An army, troop, band, multitude: clāmor —Of things, noise, sound, din căvus , “tibia,” id. 2, 620:
“bucina = A. A war-trumpet b. = inanis, vain, empty: “gloria,
Tībĭa , a pipe, flute (orig. made of bone; curva choros indixit tibia Bacchi,” “modulate canentes tibiae,Bestĭa , 2. As a term of reproach (cf. belua and our beast): “mala tu es bestia,” Plaut. Bacch. 1, 1, 21; id. Poen. 5, 5, 13.—And, humorously, of the odor of the armpits (cf. ala and caper), Cat. 69, 8.— căno , cĕcĭni, cantum (ancient I.imp. cante = canite,
“once canituri,” Vulg. Apoc. 8, 13 to utter melodious notes, to sing, sound, play.
tibicen “cithara,”[HARP] crowing of a cock: “galli victi silere solent, canere victores,” to crow,
to practice magic, to charm, Galli is a word for a Catamite: priest of the Mother Godesses.
WORLD ENCLAVE PEOPLE HAVE A FALLEN NATURE SLANDERS A HOLY GOD.
Rom. 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom. 5:7 For scarcely for a RIGHTEOUS man will one die:
yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die
Rom. 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin;
and so DEATH passed upon all men, for that ALL HAVE SINNED
Rom. 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world:
but sin is not imputed when there is no law
Rom. 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;
even so by the RIGHTEOUS of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
JUSTIFICATION IS NOT SALVATION: IT IS THE STANDING TO CALL ON JESUS BY BEING BAPTISM.
Titus 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost,
EVERYONE or ALL are the NORM: many were RIGHTEOUS although not PERFECT
Gen. 7:1 And the LORD said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark;
for thee have I seen RIGHTEOUS before me in this generation
thou also destroy the RIGHTEOUS with the wicked?
Gen. 18:24 Peradventure there be fifty RIGHTEOUS within the city:
wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty RIGHTEOUS that are therein?
Ex. 23:7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and RIGHTEOUS slay thou not:
for I will not justify the wicked
Heb. 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain,
by which he obtained witness that he was RIGHTEOUS, God testifying of his gifts:
and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
1John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother.
And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s RIGHTEOUS.
DAVID'S PROOF TEXTS ARE CONTRADICTED BY THE CONTEXT.
David Young: Moses: “The LORD smelled the pleasing aroma [of Noah’s sacrifice] and said in his heart: ‘Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood.’” (Genesis 8:21, NIV)
Ex. 32:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
Ex. 32:10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
Ex. 32:13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever.
Ex. 32:14 And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Ex. 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.
Ex. 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.
Ex. 32:17 And when Joshua heard the noise of the people as they shouted, he said unto Moses, There is a noise of war in the camp.
Ex. 32:18 And he said, It is not the voice of them that shout for mastery, neither is it the voice of them that cry for being overcome: but the noise of them that sing do I hear.
Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you,
that all things must be fulfilled,
which were written in the law of Moses,
and in the prophets, and in the psalms,
CONCERNING ME.
Speaking by the SPIRIT OF GOD, the Prophets deny that He commanded such pfferings
Is. 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD:
I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts;
and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.
Is. 1:12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?
Is. 1:13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity, even the solemn meeting.
Is. 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Is. 1:17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.
Is. 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD:
though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow;
though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Jer. 7:21 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel;
Put your burnt offerings unto your sacrifices, and eat flesh.
Jer. 7:22 For I spake not unto your fathers, nor commanded them in the day that I brought them out of the land of Egypt,
concerning burnt offerings or sacrifices:
Jer. 7:23 But this thing commanded I them, saying,
Obey my voice, and I will be your God, and ye shall be my people:
and walk ye in all the ways that I have commanded you, that it may be well unto you.
Psa. 14:1 THE FOOL HATH SAID IN HIS HEART, There is no God. They are CORRUPT,
they HAVE DONE abominable works, there is NONE that doeth good.
David Young: “The LORD looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All HAVE TURNED away, all have BECOME corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one. (Psalm 14:2-3, NIV)
THE FOOL Psa. 14:2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men,
to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
THE FOOL Psa. 14:3 They are all GONE aside, they are all together BECOME filthy:
there is none that DOETH good, no, not one.
Why would God look for any good IF they were all CORRUPT? There WERE Good
Psa. 14:4 Have all the WORKERS of iniquity no knowledge?
who eat up MY PEOPLE as they eat bread, [TITHES AND OFFERINGS]
and call not upon the LORD.
Psa. 14:5 There were they in great fear: for GOD IS IN THE GENERATION OF THE RIGHTEOUS.
Psa. 14:6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, BECAUSE THE LORD IS HIS REFUGE
Psa. 19:9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
REFUTES THE FOOL: Psa. 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
SOLOMON
Eccl. 2:26 For God giveth to a MAN THAT IS GOOD IN HIS SIGHT
wisdom, and knowledge, and joy:
but to the sinner he giveth travail, to gather and to heap up,
THAT he may give to him that is good before God.
This also is vanity and vexation of spirit
Eccl. 7:15 All things HAVE I SEEN IN THE DAYS OF MY VANITY:Job 32:8 But there is a SPIRIT in man:SPIRIT is always in the form of POWER to understand God's Word OR perform some task.
and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
there is a JUST man that perisheth in HIS RIGHTEOUS
and there is a wicked man that prolongeth his life in his wickedness.
THIS IS THE PLATO MESSAGE. THEY ARE NOT DEPRAVED but exercise free will.
Eccl. 7:16 Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?
Eccl. 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: WHY shouldest thou die before thy time?
THIS NEVER MEANS THAT GOD SENDS THEM TO HELL.
Eccl. 7:18 It is good that thou shouldest take hold of this; yea, also from this withdraw not thine hand:
for he that feareth God shall come forth of them all.
Eccl. 7:19 Wisdom strengtheneth the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.
David Young: “Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins” (Ecclesiastes 7:20, NIV) and
BASED ON: All things HAVE I SEEN IN THE DAYS OF MY VANITY:
Eccl. 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
Eccl. 7:21 Also take no heed unto all words that are spoken; lest thou hear thy servant curse thee:
Eccl. 7:22 For oftentimes also thine own heart knoweth that thou thyself likewise hast cursed other
THEY TAKE RESPONSIBILITY!
Eccl. 7:28 Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all those have I not found.
Eccl. 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions
Eccl. 8:12 Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged,
yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that FEAR [reverance] God,
which fear before him:
SOLOMON
Prov. 19:1 Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool.
Prov. 20:7 The JUST man walketh in his INTEGRITY: his children are blessed after him.
JUST h6662. צַדִּיק tsaddiyq, tsad-deek´; from 6663; just:—just, lawful, righteous (man).
h6663. צָדַק tsadaq, tsaw-dak´; a primitive root; to be (causatively, make) right (in a moral or forensic sense):—cleanse, clear self, (be, do) just(-ice, -ify, -ify self), (be turn to) righteous(-ness)
Prov. 20:8 A king that sitteth in the throne of judgment scattereth away all evil with his eyes.
David Young: “Who can say, ‘I have KEPT my heart pure; I am clean and without sin’?” (Proverbs 20:9, NIV)
Prov. 20:9kjv Who can say, I HAVE MADE my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?
Prov. 20:10 Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike abomination to the LORD
CHEATING IS PROOF THAT HE WAS A CHEATER!
ISAIAH:
Is. 64:4 For since the beginning of the world men have not heard, nor perceived by the ear,
neither hath the eye seen, O God, beside thee,
what he hath prepared for him that WAITETH for him.
WAITETH h2442. חָכָה chakah, khaw-kaw´; a primitive root (apparently akin to 2707 through the idea of piercing); properly, to adhere to; hence, to await:—long, tarry, wait.Is. 64:5 Thou meetest him that rejoiceth and WORKETH RIGHTEOUSNESS,
those that remember thee in thy ways:
behold, thou art wroth; for WE HAVE SINNED;
in those is CONTINUANCE, and WE shall be saved.
6662. צַדִּיק tsaddiyq, tsad-deek´; from 6663; just:—just, lawful, righteous (man).David Young: Isaiah: “All of US have BECOME LIKE ONE who is unclean, and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; we all shrivel up like a leaf, and like the wind our sins sweep us away.” (Isaiah 64:6, NIV
h6663. צָדַק tsadaq, tsaw-dak´; a primitive root; to be (causatively, make) right (in a moral or forensic sense)
Isa. 33:5 The LORD is exalted; for he dwelleth on high: he hath filled Zion with JUDGMENT AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Is. 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.
Is. 51:1 Hearken to me, ye that FOLLOW AFTER RIGHTEOUSNES.
ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn,
and to the hole of the pit whence YE are digged.
Is. 51:7 Hearken unto me, ye that know righteousness,
the people in whose heart is my law;
fear ye not the reproach of men, neither be ye afraid of their revilings.
Is. 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, WAITETH
Jer. 17:7 BLESSED is the man that TRUSTETH in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.
TRUSTETH: h982. בָּטַח batach, baw-takh´; a primitive root; properly, to hie for refuge (but not so precipitately as 2620); figuratively, to trust, be confident or sure:—be bold (confident, secure, sure), careless (one, woman), put confidence, (make to) hope, (put, make to) trustJer. 17:8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
David Young: Jeremiah: “The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure.” (Jeremiah 17:9, NIV)
Jer. 17:9KJV The heart is deceitful [inscrutabile] above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
That's why we are commanded to READ or SPEAK that which is WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING..Jer. 17:[9] pravum est cor omnium et inscrutabile quis cognoscet illud
Jer. 17:10 I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins,
even to give every man ACCORDING TO HIS WAYS.
and ACCORDING to the fruit of HIS DOING
Jer. 17:11 As the partridge sitteth on eggs, and hatcheth them not; so he that getteth riches, and not by RIGHT, shall leave them in the midst of his days, and at his end shall be a foo
Jer. 17:16 As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day; thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right before thee
JOHN: John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
David Young: Jesus (or John):[2] “This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but PEOPLE loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.” (John 3:19, NIV)
Pistis (g4102) pis'-tis; from 3982; persuasion, i.e. credence; mor. conviction (of religious truth, or the truthfulness of God or a religious teacher), espec. reliance upon Christ for salvation; abstr. constancy in such profession; by extens. the system of religious (Gospel) truth itself: - assurance, belief, believe, faith, fidelity.
Before trying to explain away the historic understanding of Scripture, it will help to understand the meaning of "believeth not" or Apistos AND look at examples of the words:
A. pepisteukein Act.Ap.14.23 : ( [pistis] ) :--trust, put faith in, rely on a person, thing,
or statement, tini Hdt.1.24 ; tôi logôi Id.2.118 ,
Examples: Herodotus 1.XXIV. They say that this Arion, who spent most of his time with Periander,
wished to sail to Italy and Sicily, and that after he had made a lot of money there
he wanted to come back to Corinth.
A . Trusting none more than the Corinthians, pisteuonta
B. he hired a Corinthian vessel to carry him from Tarentum.
Faith or trust means to COMPLY which is the opposite of NOT Comply--Apistis
2. comply, OPPOSITE to APISTEO
A. [7] Periander, [apistiês] skeptical,
B. kept him in confinement, letting him go nowhere, and waited for the sailors.
Those who COMPLY NOT Apist-eô I. disbelieve, distrust, was distrusted, i.e. no one could be sure of knowing,
II. = apeitheô, disobey, to be DISOBEDIENT, they refuse to comply, They are not to be trusted, and so of persons and their acts, not trusty, faithless, Act., mistrustful, incredulous, suspicious, Treacherously, cause to REVOLT from. also kleptô meaning: seize or occupy secretly, effect or bring about clandestinely, gamon, to be 'smuggled in' get rid of imperceptibly
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, BECAUSE their deeds were evil.
NOT ALL: ONLY EVIL MEN LOVE DARKNESS!
John 3:20 For every one [PEOPLE] THAT DOETH evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, LEST HIS DEEDS should be reproved.
John 3:21 BUT he that DOETH TRUTH cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
1John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Psa. 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
Psa. 139:24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
David Young: So “God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done” (Romans 1:24-28, NIV).
Rom. 1:14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
Rom. 1:15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also
Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!Rom. 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:
for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;
to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom. 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Psa. 40:9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.
Rom. 3:21 But now the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God without the law is manifested,Rom. 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven
being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Gal. 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
Gen. 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;Gal. 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith,
Gen. 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Gen. 26:6 And Isaac dwelt in Gerar:
the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal. 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing
that God would justify the heathen through faith,
preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying,
In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal. 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
Gal. 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Gal. 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
Gal. 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Hab. 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his fait
against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men,
who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom. 1:21 Because that, when they knew God,
they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful;
but BECAME vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom. 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
THE MORTAL SIN WHICH RESULTED IN SIN AT MOUNT SINAI WAS MUSICAL-TRINITARIAN-PERVERTED "PLAY"
Rom. 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
David Young: So “God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done” (Romans 1:24-28, NIV).
God did not make them sinnerTHE TRUE NIV:
Rom. 24NIV. THEREFORE, God gave them over in the SINFUL DESIRES of THEIR HEARTS to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another
Rom. 1:24kjv WHEREOVER God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
g1352. διό dio, dee-o´; from 1223 and 3739; through which thing, i.e. consequently: — for which cause, therefore, wherefore.
Rom. 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie,
and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Rom. 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom. 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge,
God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
David Young: Peter, on unbelievers’ lives: “. . . living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.” (1 Peter 4:3, NIV)
1Pet. 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh,
arm yourselves likewise with the same mind:
for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1Pet. 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men,
but to the will of God.
David Young: Peter, on unbelievers’ lives: “. . . living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.” (1 Peter 4:3, NIV)
THE TRUE NIV!
1 Peter 4:3niv For you have spent enough time in the past DOING WHAT PAGANS CHOOSE TO DO —
living in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry.
1Pet. 4:3kjv For the time past OF OUR LIFE may suffice us to have WROUGHT THE WILL of the GENTILES, when WE WALKED in lasciviousness, lusts, excess of wine, revellings, banquetings, and abominable idolatries
1Pet. 4:4 Wherein they think it strange that YE RUN NOT WITH THEM to the same excess of riot, speaking evil of you:
Jesus Christ still rules in the STATE of "Holy Spirit, Comforter, Intercessor"
1John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you,
that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him,
and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light,
we have fellowship one with another,
and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
NEXT PARAGRAPH:
John: “If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.” (1 John 1:8, NIV)
1John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1John 1:9 If we confess OUR sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins,
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1John 1:10 If we SAY THAT WE HAVE NO SINNED
we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not.
And if any man sin, we have an ADVOCATE with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Cor. 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul;1John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
the last Adam WAS MADE A QUICKENING SPIRIT
1John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments
David Young: In the New Testament, it is the apostle Paul who most comprehensively addresses human sinfulness, especially in Romans 1–3. There, Paul explains that people ought to have known God by nature, but unwashed, we humans by our fallen nature reject God. Instead of worshiping God, we focus on ourselves and our desires
https://www.pineycom.com/David.Young.Romans.1.html
https://www.pineycom.com/David.Young.Romans.10.Five.Finger.Salvation.html
Rom. 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ:
for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth;
to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom. 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith:
as it is written, The just shall live by faith
Hab. 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.Exodus.32.Worship.of.Golden.Calf.html
1Cor. 10:7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
paizō , 2. esp. dance, “paisate” Od.8.251; “dōma peristenakhizeto possin andrōn paizontōn” 23.147, cf. Hes.Sc.277; “p. te kai khoreuein” Ar.Ra.409, cf. 390; “enoplia khalkōtheis epaizen” Pi.O.13.86:—Pass., alla pepaistai metriōs hēmin, of the chorus, Ar. Th.1227.
Paizo, 4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn” Ar.Ra.230; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16. 5. play amorously, “pros allēlous” X.Smp.9.2
Prospaizō, prospaizousa tois ōmois komēplaying over, II. c. acc., theous p. sing to the gods, sing in their praise or honour, Pl.Epin.980b: c. dupl. acc., humnon prosepaisamen . . ton . . Erōta sang a hymn in praise of Eros, Id.Phdr.265c. 2. banter , “tous rhētoras” Id.Mx.235c, cf. Euthd.285a; p. ton kuna, ton arkton, , humn onpr. tonSee Jay Guin's use of the PATTERN in dancing in worship.
Their rising up AGAINST god and dancing included:
1Cor. 10:6 Now these things were our examples, [PATTERN]
4. play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn” Ar.Ra.230; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16.
to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
1Cor. 10:8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed,
and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
They worshipped the Stary Host and that is why God turned them over to worship the HOST of heaven including Abaddon or Apollon leader of the MUSES.
11.25.25 11.39.25
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