Richard Beck Wineskins.org Table and Baptism
Richard Beck NEW Wineskins.org Table and Baptism: Universalists
Richard Beck, sectarian, universalist, slanderer speaks of TWO STREAMS
of Churches of Christ. Only one can be an Ekklesia-synagogue and the
other is SECTARIAN or heretical as defined by Paul's warning in Romans
15
From Clay Tablets onward there have been TWO STREAMS of religious
merchants (selling learning at retail or prostitutes). It is very
possible that Rickard Beck nor Matt Dabbs has ever seen the kingdom
which does not come with observation meaning religious rituals. Richard
Beck is probably a member of the Abilene Kingdo
X.Mem.1.6.13 Xen. Mem. 1.6.13
To this Socrates
replied: “Antiphon,
it is common opinion among us
in regard to beauty and wisdom
that there
is an honourable
and a shameful way of bestowing them.
For to offer
one's beauty for money to all comers is called prostitution;
But we
think it virtuous to become friendly with
a lover who is known to be a
man of honour.
So is it with wisdom. Those who offer it to all comers
for money
are known as sophists, prostitutors of wisdom,
But we think
that he who makes a friend of one whom he knows to be gifted
by nature, and teaches him all the good he can,
fulfils the duty of a citizen and
a gentleman.
Sophis-tēs
, ou,
o(, A. master of one's craft, adept,
expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49;
of poets, “meletan
sophistais
prosbalon”
Pi.I.5(4).28,
cf. Cratin.2;
of musicians, “sophistēs
. . parapaiōn
khelun”
A.Fr.314,
cf. Eup.447,
Pl.Com. 140;
sophistē
Thrēki
(sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924,
cf. Ath.14.632c:
with modal words added, “hoi
s.
tōn
hierōn
melōn” [melody in the holy place--a death sentence for any Levite]
HO, every one that thirsteth,
come ye to the
waters,
and he that hath no money;
come ye, buy, and eat; yea,
come, buy wine and milk
WITHOUT MONEY
and WITHOUT PRICE.
Isa 55:1
2 Cor. 2:17 For we are not as many,
............ which
corrupt the word of God:
............ but as of
sincerity, but as of God,
............ in the sight
of God speak we in Christ.
kapēl-euō,
A. to be a retail-dealer, drive
a petty trade Hdt. 3.89
ta
mathēmata
sell learning by retail, hawk
it about, Pl. Prt.313d
, 2 Cor. 2:17, of prostitutes,
Plat. Prot. 313d
For among the provisions,
you know, in which these men deal, not only are they themselves
ignorant what is good or bad for the body, since in selling they
commend them all, but the people who buy from them are so too, unless
one happens to be a trainer or a doctor. And in the same way, those who
take their doctrines the round of our cities, hawking them about to any
odd purchaser who desires them, commend everything that they sell, and
there may well be some of these too, my good sir, who are ignorant
which of their wares is
[313e]
good or bad for the soul;
and in just the same case are the people who buy from them, unless one
happens to have a doctor's knowledge here also, but of the soul. So
then, if you are well informed as to what is good or bad among these
wares, it will be safe for you to buy doctrines from Protagoras or from
anyone else you please: but if not, take care, my dear fellow, that you
do not risk your greatest treasure on a toss of the dice.
"No man sings and plays an instrument unless he is drunk, perverted or
just having fun" as in the MARKING of the Galli or dogs around the
suffering Savior.
Worship and Androgyny the Pagan Sexual Ideal, Peter Jones.
He and recorded history mark gesturing speaking, singing or playing an
instrument make popular to the world by being sexually androgynous. I
can tell you about the hair raising up on the back of my neck in a few
"worship services.
Cyprian letters 1:8
That Jupiter of theirs is not more
supreme in dominion than in vice, inflamed with earthly love in the
midst of his own thunders...now breaking forth by the help of birds to
violate the purity of boys. And now put the question: Can he who
looks upon things be healthy-minded or modest? Men imitate the gods whom
they adore, and to such miserable beings their crimes become their
religion.
Let the temperate meal resound with psalms;
and as your memory is tenacious and your voice musical, undertake this
office, as is your wont. You will provide a better entertainment for
your dearest friends, if, while we have something spiritual to listen
to, the sweetness of religious music charm our ears.
§ The Symposium. Summary of the Argument. Aristodemus meeting Socrates smartly attired expresses his surprise at
so unusual a circumstance. Socrates explains that being invited to dine
with Agathon he feels bound to go “in finery to the fine”; and he
presses Aristodemus, although uninvited, to accompany him. On the road
Socrates, immersed in thought, lags behind, and Aristodemus arrives at
Agathon's alone. Not till they are half-way through the meal does
Socrates appear; and Agathon rallies him on his devotion to sophia.
The proposal of Pausanias to restrict the potations, in view of
yesterday's banquet, and that of Eryximachus to dismiss the flute-girl
and amuse themselves by logoi,
are unanimously agreed to. Then Eryximachus propounds an idea of
Phaedrus, that Eros is the best possible theme for encomia, and
suggests that each of the party in turn, commencing with Phaedrus,
should now deliver an encomium on Eros. This suggestion is applauded by
Socrates. Of the encomia the most noteworthy were the following:—
Sophia (Wisdom of the Jews) is connected with rhetoric, singing, playing
instruments, acting or other hypocritic arts and crafts which has
always been real or virtual. LEGALISM is only applied to those
Worship Acts requiring a set of laws and extensive training and a
certain mark or kharacter of personality.
The varying nomoi
[LAWS LEGALISM]concerning Eros may be classified thus:— (1) In all Greek states except Athens the nomos is
simple, either (a)
approving
paidiske. SELLING learning at wholesale is to Paul and the Greeks prostitution. Elders who turn out to be wolves are marked by men
and women exercising AUTHENTIA authority knowing that keeping
people's attention on the performers and performances "make the lambs
dumb before the slaugher.
Kunikos II.Kunikos, ho, Cynic,
as the followers of the philosopher Antisthenes were called, from the
gymnasium
The Levites were
musicians under the Worship of the Starry host.
-Charizesthai erastais Pederasty musicians, odes, Mousa
paidikee, which are
mere play
for him. A nomos for cinaedi
by a Sybarite Hemitheon is
mentioned by Lucian
adv. ind. 23 (cf.
Pseudo-Lucian 3).
-Eros ,
Alex.Aet.3.12 ,
AP9.39 (Musicius) : in Ep. and Lyr. usu. eros (q. v.) : (heramai,
era):--love, mostly
of the sexual passion, tinos
love for one, S.Tr.433 ; paidon E. Ion67
IV. name of the klēros Aphroditēs, Cat.Cod.Astr.1.168 ; = third klēros, Paul.Al.K.3 ; one of the topoi, Vett.Val.69.16.
Xenophon,
in
Symp. 8.32, say
that pederasty was
the usual custom in Elis and Thebes, and Plato adds that charizesthai
erastais was not
considered dishonorable because
the people there were too inarticulate to
persuade with words.
The LOGOS versus the SOPHIA
is identified when Jesus implied that the MEN had become CHILDREN who
PIPED hoping that people would lament and dance in the sexual initiation
into Dionysus or the new wineskins worshi
Malakos
THIS: . of reasoning, weak, loose, logosIsoc.12.logoslian m. Arist.Metaph.1090b8
. Adv. -kôs, sullogizesthai
to reason loosely
OR THIS: 2. music to which a song is set, tune,
logou te kai harmonias kai rhuthmoum
III.
of persons or modes of life, soft, mild, gentle, malakōteros amphaphaasthai easier to handle, of a fallen hero, Il.22.373;
c.
morally weak, lacking in self-control, Hdt.7.153 (Comp.); “antikeitai tō m. ho karterikos” Arist.EN1150a33: c. inf., “malakos karterein pros hēdonas te kai lupas” Pl.R.556c; “to truphōn kai m.” Ar.V.1455 (lyr.); not to give in from weakness or want of spirit, indulgences
e.
of music, soft, effeminate, “m. harmoniai ”Pl.R.398e, 411a, cf. Arist.Pol.1290a28; tuned to a low pitch, opp. “suntonos, khrōma m.”
THIS MAY BE WHY THERE IS SUCH VIOLENCE AGAINS THE LOGOS OR THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE.reg
Richard Beck: As I’ve written about before, right now there are two streams in the
Churches of Christ,
a sectarian stream
and an ecumenical stream.
Richard Beck is following the second stream of apostasy
because the first stream began when the NACC or Christian Churches which
began in 1927--too late for churches of Christ to have SECTED OUT--was
finally REMOVED from the Disciples Census. That is the same
Disciples-Christians who tried to CLAIM Churches of Christ in the first
census and got their fingers caught in the anti ORGAN and SOCIETY group.
Historically, the CoC has been very sectarian, believing only those from
our tribe to be the only faithful Christians in the world. Catholics,
Baptists, Lutherans and everyone else were headed to hell. At its worst
that’s what CoC theology represented and communicated. And that is what a
lot of people have in mind to this day when they think of the Churches
of Christ.
But starting in the 70s and 80s an increasingly ecumenical impulse
began to emerge within the CoC, an increasing willingness to see
ourselves as a particular stream flowing into the much broader river of
Christianity. Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans and everyone else are our
brothers and sisters in Christ. This, obviously, is the group of CoCers I
identify with.
That's false: the Stone
Campbell
Movement began with Leroy Garrett as a false effort to connect Churches
of Christ with the Christian Churches. In 197 the Christian
Churches or NACC began again their UNITY meetings meaning that we have
have UNITY if you become INSTRUMENTAL SECTARIANS. The Baby boomers
spawned by the ANTI-carnal warfare draft dodgers were easy prey to the
AGENTS of the NACC who vastly dimenished by SECTING OUT of the Disciples
needed new fodder for the Organ and Society party:
the NACC has all of the trappings of a denomination and sees itself
along with the Christian Standard as the DISPENSERS of new theology.
That's a lie. A person
who calls the church of Christ a CULT for repeating "BAPTISM NOW SAVES
YOU" lie about all of the connections between baptism and
salvation beginning by Christ in Isaiah 1. My brother would
never tell people that they can be saved by FAITH ALONG when Jesus said
that those who BELIEVE or Apistos meaning to COMPLY are save and those
who believe not or Apistos meaning I will NOT comply will be damned.
A Christian is a
Disciple and you can be a The-O-Lyte without understanding that a
disciple is a STUDENT. EVEN THEN, he missed the Great Commission which
SENT OUT the only authorized agents and commanded them to teach what HE
commanded to be taught.
If Richard Beck wants to be a universalists he has to REPUTIATE many facts.
Luke 12:32 Fear not, LITTLE FLOCK; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
Rom. 10:16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel.
For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
A Believer is one who has OBEYED the gospel or the FORM
Rom. 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom. 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father,
even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom. 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death,
we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom. 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey,
his servants ye are to whom ye obey;
whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom. 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,
but ye have obeyed from the heart
that form [ANTI-TUPOS] of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom. 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
If a Baptists says that HIS FAITH is powerful enough to save him and
DENIES the clear statements of Scripture they are STILL IN THEIR SINS
and are not the sons of God.
The ONLY spiritual Covenant was made with God in Christ to Abraham. God
cured the tribe of LEVI which is the PATTERN for the Catholic church and
all MUSICAL WORSHIP TEAMS.
Gal. 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal. 3:27 (What I mean to say is) as many of you as have been baptized
into Christ have put on Christ.
We are saved by faith WHICH MEANS as many has been baptized INTO Christ
have been clothed with Christ. Anyone who calls that a liar cannot wear
Christ as a garment and can never come boldly before the throne of
Grace.
[27] quicumque enim in Christo baptizati estis Christum
induistis
Enim why because, for, for instance, namely,
that
is to say, I mean, in fact I.
To corroborate a preceding assertion, yes indeed, yes truly, of a
truth, to be sure, certainly, indeed: A. To prove or show the grounds
of a preceding assertion
If the The-O-Lites which may
never have been a minimal student is always going to be diverted to a
phrase or clause which says what THEY want to bellieve. It MAY be that
if you do not love the Truth Christ will not even LET you quote the
full text
Cic.
Off.
1.39 13.
Again, if under stress of circumstances
individuals have made any promise to the enemy,
they are bound to keep their word even then.
For
instance, in the First Punic War, when Regulus was
taken prisoner by the Carthaginians, he was sent
to Rome on parole to negotiate an exchange of
prisoners;
We are SAVED BY FAITH "For instance" we are Baptized INTO Christ.
Pl.
Capt. 3.4
Cobnjunction
at enim
‘but indeed’ (on the use of enim in Plautus, see below)
in dialogue is used to oppose a preceding statement of the other
speaker, e.g. Most. 922 “A. vel mihi denumerato … B. at enim ne
quid captioni mihi sit, si dederim tibi”. (For other examples of at enim see Seyffert in Studemund's Studien
2, p. 426 n.)
2Th. 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
1Pet. 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of
God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that
obey not the gospel of God?
1Pet. 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
Richard Beck Now to a second point before we can discuss the future of the CoC. The CoC has been a movement centered around church practices,
about restoring a “New Testament pattern” of worship and church
organization. The CoC has been less focused upon theology (historically a
dirty word in our tradition) than upon ecclesiology.
Church or Ekklesia consists of all citizens of the Kingdom of God: they
don't do dogma nor like the Catholic Cathedrals HIRE SOMEONE to keep
house sll weak. The Latin uses umbrellum which is a SAFE HOUSE where
Jesus hides us from door to door quacks or merchants of salvation or
inventors of "ministries."
When the citizens are called into assembly by the Contact Elder we are
called a SYNAGOGUE. Richard Beck nor any of the for hire people knew
that because God HIDES from the wise or sophists meaning speakers for
hire, singers, instrument players, actors or dancers.
The LOGOS or WORD is defined by Scripture and not by Calvin nor Campbell
as the REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE: it is opposite of rhetoric or personal
opinions, singers, instrument players or actors.
Jesus called the Scribes (liars) and Pharisees, hypocrites: In Ezekiel
33 (missed that one too?) names speakers for hire, singers, instrument
players or ANY audience collected by them.
Men like John Calvin and the Campbells and all "scholars" understand
that Christ SECTED OUT the godly stream from the Jacob-cursed and
God-abandoned LEVI stream in the qahal, synagogue, ekklesia or Church of
Christ (the Rock) in the wilderness. They understood that Christ
defined A SCHOOL OF THE WORD is groups as small as ten families (Exodus
18) which was:
EXCLUSIVE of vocal or instrumental rejoicing or high sounding
rhetoric. He needed a law to mark and avoid those who were
ecumenical.
INCLUSIVE of Rest (from religion and religionists), READING and REHEARSING the Word of God
To call Churches of Christ as a group SECTARIAN is a lie and intended to sow discord.
A Sectarian or Heretic silenced as self-pleasure in Romans 15 (missed
the PATTERN?). They lifted up the dumb lambs to CUT THEIR THROATS.
A Parasite is the religious instrument players making the lamb dumb before the slaughter.
By silencing the weak in Romans 14 it was possible to carry out the universal CENI for the assembly with no staff.
"Use one mind and one mouth" to "speak that which is written for out
LEARNING" or "Scripture for Comfort: the tool of the Paraklete)
Gary Holloway Ecumenical:
First of all, we are not working toward a slightly larger sectarianism,
thinking that "our" churches are the only ones. Instead we are affirming
our heritage of Christian unity. Indeed, from the beginning
our movement
thought its only reason to exist was to promote unity among all Christians.
That''s
a lie and is used as psychological violence intending to silence
anyone who tells them that they are ANTI-biblical and therefore
ANTI-Christian since church has no other historical resource used to
hobble the ORAL TRADITIONALISTS makes up their own scriptures by forcing the Scriptures (prophets and apostles to lie.
A Restoration of the Ancient Order of Things--No. III. by Alexander Campbell,
pp. 139-142.
I have no idea of seeing, nor one wish to see, the sects unite in one
grand army.
This would be dangerous to our liberties and laws.
For this
the Saviour did not pray.
It is only the disciples of Christ dispersed
among them,
that reason and benevolence would call out of them.
Let
them unite who love the Lord,
and then we shall soon see the hireling
priesthood
and their worldly establishments prostrate in the dust.
Before and after the handshake of a few preachers in 1832 Alexander Campbess denied any unity with The Stoneites and Stone denied any unity because Campbell would not join in the EXTABLISHMENTS.
But creeds of human contrivance keep up these establishments;
nay, they
are declared by some sects to be their very constitution.--
These create,
and foster, and mature that state of things which operates
against the
letter and spirit of the Saviour's prayer.
The disciples cannot be
united while these are recognized;
and while these are not one, the
world cannot be converted.
So far from being the bond of union, or the
means of uniting the saints,
they are the bones of controversy, the
seeds of discord,
the cause as well as the effect of division.
Gary Holloway Ecumenical: Secondly, much of our work consists of meetings and dialogues worldwide
with Christians from other traditions. Meetings like the Global
Christian Forum, Christian Churches Together in the USA, and the meeting
of
Secretaries of World Christian Communions.
First, it is biblical. “Ecumenical” is from the Greek word oikoumena,
which is used 15 times in the New Testament for “the entire inhabited
world.” The most interesting passage that relates to the modern meaning
is Matthew 24:14: “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.”
That's a lie
THE EKKLESIA CONSISTS OF ALL WHO HAVE BEEN "WASHED WITH WATER INTO THE
WORD OR INTO THE SCHOOL OF CHRIST." A person who denies that Baptism
comes BEFORE the remission of sins and have their spirits translated
into the heavenly kingdom are NOT part of the LITTLE FLOCK God gave
Jesus to come, seek and save OUT of the World for which Jesus refuses to
pray
Oikoumen-2 (sc. gē), hē, A.
inhabited region, v. oikeo A. 1 ; then the Greek world, opp. barbarian lands, The inhabited world, “hē philia perikhoreuei tēn oi.
III. mellousa [destined to] the world to come, i.e. the kingdom of Christ, Ep.Hebr.2.5.
perikhor-euo , A. dance round, [ekeise kai to deuro] E.Ph.316(lyr.); tinaLuc.DMar.15.3 ; “ton bomon” Id.Salt.24: metaph., “he philia p. tēn oikoumenen”
Luc. Salt. 24 orkhoumenas tas Mousas,
Dioik-eō “diōkēsamēn” keep house: hence, generally, control, manage, administer, manage after one's own will and pleasure, managing to make such iniquitous profits, act collusively with ton kosmon” Id.Phdr.246c;
kosmos , ho, A.
order, kata kosmon in order, duly, shamefully, generally, of things, natural order,
ornament, decoration, esp. of women, metaph., of ornaments of speech, such as epithets, to sing sweet songs of praise, world-order, universe, first in Pythagoras, of earth, as opp. heaven, 3.
in later Gr., = oikoumenē, the known or inhabited world, 5.
houtos ho k. this present world, i.e. earth, OPPOSITE. heaven, Ev.Jo.13.1; regarded as the kingdom of evil, ho arkhōn tou k. toutou ib.12.31.
Pind. O. 11 My tongue wants to foster such themes; [10] but it is by the gift of a
god that a man flourishes with a skillful mind, as with anything else.
For the present rest assured, Hagesidamus son of Archestratus: for the
sake of your boxing victory,
I shall loudly sing a sweet song, an
adornment for your garland of golden olive,
[15] while I honor the race
of the Western Locrians.
There, Muses, join in the victory-song; I
shall pledge my word to you that we will find there a race that does
not repel the stranger, or is inexperienced in fine deeds, but one that
is wise and WARLIKE too.
Ephesians 6.[12]
For our wrestling is not
against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the
powers,
against the world's rulers of the darkness of this age, and
against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
world's rulers of the darkness of this age
Kosmo-krator epith. of ouranos, Orph.H.4.3; “Zeus Mitras Hēlios k. Dam.Pr.131; hoi k. tou skotous toutou the cosmic rulers of this sinful world, Ep.Eph.6.12; “hoi k. hoi ta hupo selēnēn stoikheia dioikountes”
skotos (“ho”.) N. 4.40 “tai megalai gar alkai skoton polun humnōn ekhonti deomenai” N. 7.13
Pind. N. 7 If someone is successful in his deeds, he casts a cause for sweet
thoughts into the streams of the Muses. For those great acts of prowess
dwell in deep darkness, if they lack songs, and we know of only one way
to hold a mirror up to fine deeds:
[15]
if, by the grace of Mnemosyne with her splendid headdress, one finds a
recompense for toils in glorious song.
Skillful men know the wind that will come on the day after tomorrow, and
they do not suffer loss through the love of gain. The rich man and the
poor man alike travel together to the boundary of death.
[20]
And I expect that the story of Odysseus came to exceed his
experiences, through the sweet songs of Homer,
since there is a certain solemnity in his lies and winged artfulness,
and poetic skill deceives, seducing us with stories, and the heart of
the mass of men is blind. For if
[25]
they had been able to see the truth, then mighty Aias, in anger over
the arms, would never have planted in his chest the smooth sword
hēlios II.
as pr. n.,
Helios, the sun-god,
Od.8.271, etc.;
nē ton Hē.
Men.Sam. 108;
hupo Dia Gēn Hēlion, in manumission-formula, [“
Hēlios doulous eleutherous poiei”
Artem.2.36; identified with
Apollo,
Carm.Pop.12,
E.Fr.781.11; with
Dionysus,
D.Chr.31.11, etc.
2.
Hēliou astēr, of the planet
Saturn, v.l. in
Pl.Epin.987c, cf.
D.S.2.30,
Theo Sm. p.130H. (I.-
E. sāwelios, cf. Cret.
abelios, Lith.
sáulė, Lat.
sōl.）
Poieō ,2.
create, bring into existence, “genos anthrōpōn khruseon” Hes.Op.110, cf. Th.161, 579, etc.
4.
after
Hom., of Poets,
compose, write, p. dithurambon, epea, Hdt.1.23,
4.14; “
p. theogoniēn Hellēsi”
Id.2.53;
p. Phaidran, Saturous, Ar.Th.153,
157;
p. kōmōdian, tragōdian, etc.,
Pl.Smp.223d; “
palinōdian”
Isoc.10.64,
Pl.Phdr.243b, etc.; “
poiēmata”
Id.Phd.60d: abs.,
write poetry, write as a poet, “
orthōs p.”
Hdt.3.38; “
en toisi epesi p.”
Id.4.16, cf.
Pl.Ion534b: folld. by a quotation, “
epoēsas pote . .”
Ar.Th.193; “
eis tina”
Pl.Phd.61b; “
peri theōn”
Id.R.383a, etc.
in the heavenly places.
epouranios a^, 3.
[select]
up to heaven, eptat' epouraniē v.l. in Arat.134. Opposite epigeios , on, A.
on or of the earth, terrestrial,
Matt Dabbs mocks posting the texts without refuting
1 – In the early days of the Restoration movement,
we shifted from
theology (Restoration theology)
to a particular set of practices that
were developed
through a particular hermeneutic (CENI).
Christ defined the CENI in Isaiah 8 and said of those who do not SPEAK the Word THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM.
If God does not regulate that gives ME the right to regulate even when
it usually intends to sow discord: this is the Purpose Driven Cults
device for driving out the owners. If you are busy with THEOLOGY
THE REGULATIVE PRINCIPLE
Logos
computation, reckoning 2. statement of a theory, argument, ouk emeu alla tou l. akousantas prob. in Heraclit.50; logon ēde noēma amphis alētheiēs discourse and reflection on reality,
IV. inward debate of the soul, reflection, deliberation
Regulative and formative forces, derived from the intelligible and operative in the sensible universe,
Opposite to epithumia
A. desire, yearning,
longing after a thing, desire of
or for it, Theaomai :--gaze
at, behold, mostly with a sense of wonder, 3.
view
as spectators
Opposite Pathos A.
that which happens to a person or thing, incident, accident,
Opposite Poiein to excite passion, Arist.Rh.1418a12; V.
Rhet., emotional style or treatment,
Opposite Enthousi-astikos , ē, on,
A.
inspired, “phusis” Pl.Ti.71e; esp. by music,
VI. verbal
expression or utterance, lego, lexis
-Lexis
A.speech, OPPOSITE
ôidê |
|
-ôidê,
1.art of song 5.
= eppsdê, spell, incantation
4. text of an
author, OPPOSITE exegesis [Peter's private
interpretation outlaws exegesis]
Arist.En1142a26 |
Prose, OPPOSITE -poiêsis, Id.R.390a;
OPPOSITE -poiêtikê, D.H.Comp.6;
opp. poiêmata, onomatopoeic
word
OPPOSITE
emmetra Modus 2.
The measure of tones, measure, rhythm, melody, harmony, time; in poetry, measure, metre, mode:
Mūsĭcus
a, um, adj., = mousikos.
X.
the Word or Wisdom of God, personified as his agent in creation and world-government,
347c] But
if he does not mind, let us talk no more of poems and verses,
but
consider the points on which I questioned you at first, Protagoras,
and on which I should be glad to reach, with your help, a conclusion.
For it seems
to me that arguing about poetry
is comparable to the wine-parties
of common market-folk. These people,
owing to their inability to carry on a familiar conversation over
their wine by means
of their own voices and discussions
Matt Dabbs: Over time the
practices got highlighted more and more and the theology less and less.
The glaring discrepancies caused us to question the underpinnings of our
practice (the CENI hermeneutic).
THAT'S PROPHESIED FOR JUST A TIME AS THIS GREAT TRIBULATION
Jesus said that theologians or Doctors of the Law TAKE AWAY THE KEY TO KNOWLEDGE: that is their destiny.
theolog-eō ,
2. refer to a divine influence,
tous tokous Sch.
Ptol.Tetr.103.
zōogonos2
zōē zōē
tēn zoēn poieesthai or katastēsasthai apo or ek . . to get one's living by .
II. zōē,= “graus” 11, the scum on milk,
zôos alive, living, Homer, Hdt., etc.; zôon
helein [heresy or sectarianism] tina to TAKE PRISONER,
SIMONY is selling or buying what they claim as access and
power of A Holy Spirit Person. May their money perish with them. Peter
said that the Scriptures are not subject to private interpretation which
FURTHER EXPOUNDING. Jesus has expounded the prophets and you
cannot SELL the Free Water of the Word and be a BROTHER.
ma^geia ,
hē,
II. magic,
Thphr.HP9.15.7 (pl.),
Act.Ap.8.11 (pl.),
PMag.Berol.1.127, etc.;
tēn goētikēn m. oud' egnōsan hoi magoi]
Arist. Fr.36.
Aristot. Met. 6.1026a Now all
causes must be eternal, but these especially; since they are the
causes of what is
visible of things divine. Hence there will be three
speculative philosophies: mathematics, physics, and
theology—
[20]
since it is obvious that if the divine is present anywhere, it is
present in this kind of entity; and also the most honorable science
must deal with the most honorable class of subject. The
speculative sciences, then, are to be preferred to the other sciences,
and "theology" to the other speculative sciences. One might indeed
raise the question whether the primary philosophy is universal or
deals with some one genus or entity;
Alexander Campbell inherited the CENI from John Calvin who with all
historic scholars inherited it from the Scriptures defined in the
Prophets by Christ, made more certain by Jesus fulfiling the prophecies
[only] about the Christ in the law and Prophets, taught to eye-- and
ear--witnesses who left their PART.
A Church of Chrisit is built upon or EDUCATED by the Prophets and
Apostles: latter day pop theologians build upon the law given because of
musical idolatry of the Egyptian Triad.
The CENI defined that YOU have no authority to IMPOSE say
instrumental music knowing that you will sow discord without Biblical
authority.
The CENI of the Wineskins.org etal is that we ASSUME that God has not
spoken and then we IMPOSE self-will and tell the owners to "get over it
or get out." That still happens when Matt Dabb pretends that he cannot
read Scripture and the WAYS words are used in texts NOT AVAILABLE to the
wineskinners or the preachers without a role and without a dole unless
they PREACH the Word by READING the Word for Comfort and Doctrine. That
COMMAND, and example is demonstrated over and over.
CENI PATTERN ONE OF DOZENS
Psa. 127:1 Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it:
except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.
Wineskins.org and the new COHORT of warriors against the Word
demand that THE LORD WILL NOT BUILD THE HOUSE because I have bought the
SPIRITUAL gift to change definitions of words to fit OUR culture which
is defined by USE.
A CHURCH HAS A ONE PIECE PATTER AS A SCHOOL OF THE WORD:
Matt Dabbs approves of Jeff Walling wanting to DANCE WITH GOD
Wineskins.org is Jay.Guin.org and Jay wants to clear the deck and DANCE AS WORSHIP.
The Jews fell into singing, dancing, playing instruments and playing
with one another. God turned them over to worship the starry host
including Abbaddon or Apollyon who is the only personified SPIRIT and
Leader of the muses, locusts or musical worship teams.
Heb. 12:27 And this word, Yet once more,
signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken,
as of things that are made,
that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
Heb. 12:28 Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved,
let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
Heb. 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire
Matt Dabbs says he cannot understand that quoting text and definitions.
If you are still ALIVE the musical sounds-like in Revelation are signs
of judgment just before the speakers, singers and instrument players are
CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
mŏvĕo A.Lit.: “movit et ad certos nescia membra modos,” Tib. 1, 7, 38: “ut festis matrona moveri jussa diebus,” to dance, Hor. A. P. 232: moveri Cyclopa, to represent a Cyclop by dancing (gesticulating), id. Ep. 2, 2, 125: “et fila sonantia movit,” struck, Ov. M. 10, 89: “citharam cum voce,” id. ib. 5, 112: “tympana,” id. H. 4, 48; to disturb: “novis Helicona cantibus,” Manil. Astron. 1, 4: “signum movere loco,” to move from the place,
struck, Ov. M. 10, 89: “citharam cum voce,” id. ib. 5, 112: “tympana,” id. H. 4, 48; to disturb: “novis Helicona cantibus,” Manil. Astron. 1, 4: “signum movere loco,” to move from the place,
a. To excite, occasion, cause, promote, produce; to begin, commence, undertake: “
Matt won't read anything above the reading level of the professors who
sold him a bundle of false teaching. For those still ALIVE spiritually
GOD CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKEK OFF FIRE those who want to sing, clap or
dance in the presence of a SPIRIT God Who cannot be worshipped in houses
you built by the hands of widow's picked purse or anything you have
FABRICATED such as songs, sermons, plays or MINISTRIES to keep the lambs
too occupied to know that they were starving FOR THE WORD (Amos 8;
Isaiah 5)
sŏno I.
Neutr., to make a noise, to sound, resound: aes sonit, the trumpet sounds, Enn. ap. Non. 504, 33 (Trag. v. 213 Vahl.): “plectra,” Prop. 4 (5), 7, 62. tympana, * Caes. B. C. 3, 105, 4 et saep
“Pythius in longā carmina veste sonat,” sings, pours forth, accompanies on the lyre, id. 2, 31 (3, 29), 16; cf.: “sonante mixtum tibiis carmen lyra,
cantus , ūs, m. id., I.
the production of melodious sound, a musical utterance or expression, either with voice or instrument; hence, song, singing, playing
1.
With the voice, a singing, song; in full, cantus vocum,
2.
With instruments, a playing, music: “in nervorum vocumque cantibus,” Cic. Tusc. 1, 2, 4; id. Rosc. Am. 46, 134: “citharae,” Hor. C. 3, 1, 20: “horribili stridebat tibia cantu,” Cat. 64, 264: “querulae tibiae,
B.
An incantation, charm, magic song, etc.: cantusque artesque magorum
Matt Dabbs and the progressives back to Babylon UNDERSTAND Ephesians 5 to say:
SING to the audience with Limpy-wristed boylings and fat girls with what
praise leader wrote as the imposed CENI for that church.
SING and make MUSIC upon a HARP an to the AUDIENCE.
SPEAK that which is written for our learning is audible and EDUCATIONAL as the one-piece pattern
ODE and PSALLO are INT THE HEART as a place which means keep it silent silly were are EDUCATING.
LEXIS and LOGOS are the opposite of ODE or PSALLO: PSALLO or SOP carries a gender-variant content of Judas Sicarri or Assassin.
The little BOX always attached to a FLUTE CASE of a drunk and perverted
musical team was "for carrying the mouthpieces of a wind instrument."
That is what up to two thirds of the owners when they see preachers
trying to fly by waving their hands, people claiming to WORSHIP for you
because you are not competent and we will do it--FOR A PRICE.
Matt Dabbs: 2 – Our CENI hermeneutic began to fall apart, opening the door for us
to find more flexibility in our practices without feeling like we were
undermining the particulars of our theology (see #4 for how that is now
playing out).
Not according to God, The Spirit of Christ, the New Testament, historic
scholars and all founders of denominations defined a true church as
APOSTOLIC: that is it is founded upn ot TAUGHT by what the Apostles recorded for our LEARNING and not judging.
3 – We stopped putting ecclesiology over Christology…in other words, our ecclesiology had to be seen through the lens of Christ rather than
the other way around.
Matt wants YOU to be antisectarian and ecumenical but MATT gets
nervouse when you quote TEXT instead of lawyer's brief. He will take
your money and count your body but he WILL NOT even let you stand up and
read a whole thought pattern or teach or preach or be a team member.
THE ABSOLUTE AND ONLY PATTERN:
Acts 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that PREACH him, being READ in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Lego To say something, i. e.
to speak to the point or
purpose,
7.Pass., legetai, like Lat. dicitur, it is said, on dit, Hdt., also legontai einai they are said to be
9.to boast of, tell of, Xen.: to RECITE what is written, labe to biblion kai lege Plat., etc.:—but the sense of Lat. lego, to read, only occurs in compds., analegomai, epilegomai.
13. recite what is written, “labe to biblion kai lege” Pl.Tht.143c; and freq. in Oratt., as “lege ton nomon” D.21.8 and 10, etc.; of lectures, “akousate mou skholia legontos”
The only Resource
biblion or bublion , to,
The only Purpose Driving the Church
Skholion A.“skholē” 111) interpretation, comment, Cic.Att.16.7.3; “skholia legein” esp. short note, scholium, Gal.18(2).847, etc.; “skholia sunageirōn” s. eis ti on a book,
The church is ekklesia or synagogue
Suna^geirō , aor. sunēgeira, Ep. A.“xunageira” Il.20.21: Ep. 3pl. aor.1 Pass. “sunagerthen” Theoc.22.76:—gather together, assemble, hōn heneka xunageira (sc. tous theous) Il. l.c., cf. Pl.Criti.121c; “ekklēsiēn” Hdt.3.142, cf. 1.206;
Jesus called the Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES. His lens was
Ezekiel 33 which named preachers for hire, singers and instrument
players.
Jesus said that God HIDES from the wise or sophists: preachers for hire, singers and instrument players.
Jesus didn't pray for the WORLD because He nor His Disciples are OF the World.
If you cannot read BLACK text on BROWN paper says Paul then you
have not been converted INTO Christ or into the SCHOOL OF CHRIST. His
command was to TEACH that which is written and you don't need someone
with a PEEP-STONE JOE lens to read it.
Rubel Shelly the VINTER of the New Wineskins Magazine claimed that HE had received NEW SPECTACLES to revision the Church and it AIN'T going to look anything like the historic Church.
That is a burning
offense but consistent with SPIRITUAL FORMATION. Ignatius kept looking
for a job and finally convinced a Pope to hire him to track down and
murder any one not faithful to him. Hitler used Ignatious as the
PATTERN for the Holocaust and used Jesus as his authority to finish
destroying the Jews.
People who think their
own imagination is a spirit inside of them are right: Spiritus as a
person is Abaddon or Apollyon. He is unleashed from Hell along with the
Locusts who are the muses. They are identified as dirty adulteresses and
SHEPHERDS of the flock. Apollon is the LEADER of the 'musical
worship team' then and now.
The
Machiavelli FAX of Life Resisting
Change (From: Faith
Matters)
Hitler: Völkish
State:
Supporters (emotional) and Leaders
(Intellectual)
4 – The modern to post-modern shift from anti-thesis (dichotomous
options of right/wrong or black/white) to synthesis (finding ways to
combine or include multiple view points into a more meaningful whole).
POSTMODERNISM was a college prank and "dichotomous
options of right/wrong or black/white" is an example of speech generated
by a computer. Heisenburg said that you cannot know the location and
direction of a SUBATOMIC PARTICLE so the location is UNCERTAIN.
He and Einstein got their best laughs out of theologians like Shelly
(wineskins) who declares that because of EVOLUTION OF THE EYEBALLS and
the uncertaintity that the words have not been shot away, a document
Jesus held and read CAN NO LONGER have the same meaning. Therefore, you
must HIRE a theologian to tell you what the letter ALPHA really
means. For a price HE etal can ignore the text, meditate like a
witch and a spirit guide will channel the real meaning of Jesus Wept.
POSTMODERNISM is the
strong delusion God sent men who think that only they can read the text
which are acted out as speaking, singing, playing instruments or maybe
Jay-Guin-Dancing and call it FROM GOD.
All of this has reshaped our view of unity from everyone having to be
in the same box of practices
to everyone having to be followers of
Jesus whose practices will have some variety in how scripture is
interpreted and what ecclesiology will result.
How can you be a
FOLLOWER OF JESUS, bless your heart, if
you do not walk in HIS steps and speak HIS WORD or Logos or Regulative
principle, OUTLAWING speaking for hire, using your own hallucininations
or personal opinions, singing or playing instruments. Jesus was
led dumb to the slaughter by the MOCKING clergy all burned up.
Mark 10:33 Saying, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem;
and the Son of man shall be delivered unto the chief priests,
and unto the scribes [hypocrites: speakers, singers, instrument players];
and they shall condemn him to death, and shall deliver him to the Gentiles:
Psa. 22:12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round.
Psa. 22:16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet
Yea, they are greedy dogs
which
can never have enough, and they are shepherds that cannot
understand:
they all look to their own way, every one for his gain, from his
quarter. Is.56:11
And I will appoint over them
four kinds, saith the Lord: the sword
to slay, and the dogs to tear,
and the fowls
of the heaven, and the beasts
of the earth, to devour
and destroy. Je.15:3
Keluwb (h3619) kel-oob'; from the same as
3611; a bird-trap (as furnished with a clap-stick or treadle to
spring it); hence a basket (as resembling a wicker cage): - basket,
cage.
As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of
deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich. Je.5:27
Keleb (h3611) keh'leb; from an unused root
mean. to yelp, or else to attack; a dog; hence (by euphemism) a male
prostitute: - dog.
Amos 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.
Amos 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
Mark 10:34 And they shall mock him,
Latin Illudo as a female: Applied as a term of reproach, effeminate men, eloquence, rhētor but with idea of contempt, caneret,”
A.
Of men: “si absurde canat, of the crooked race, a reed pipe, a guitar, crowing of a hen tibiae, tubae, Gallus , i, m., = Gallos Strab., A.
Galli , the priests of Cybele, on account of their emasculated condition) Gallic: “turma,” the troop of the priests of Isis, Ov. Am. 2, 13, 18. “resupinati cessantia tympana Galli,”
Gallos , ho, A.
priest of Cybele, gallazō , A.
practise cult of Cybele, Galli. Eunuch priests of Cybele or the great mother: begun under the reign of Erichthonius, king of Attica, B.C. 1506;
Galli A
form gallantes, as if from gallare, "to rave like a priest of
Cybelé," is cited from Varro (ap. Non. p. 119Non., 5). In
their wild, enthusiastic, and boisterous rites the Galli recalled the
legends of the Corybantes (q.v.). According to an ancient custom,
they were always castrated (spadones, semimares, semiviri, nec viri
nec feminae), and it would seem that, impelled by religious
enthusiasm, they performed this operation on themselves... Other names, however, are of distinctly Semitic affinities; Rhea perhaps=the Babylonian Ri (Mulita or Mylitta), and Nana more certainly=the Babylonian Nana, modern Syrian Nani. Nana motherof Attis
Tac. Ann. 14.52 Of Nero: They further alleged
against him that he claimed for himself alone the honours of eloquence, and
composed poetry more assiduously, as soon as a passion for it had seized on
Nero. "Openly inimical to the prince's amusements, he disparaged his ability
in driving horses, and ridiculed his voice whenever he sang
Verg. A. 9.634
Of such loud insolence and words of shame
Ascanius brooked no more, but laid a shaft
athwart his bowstring, and with arms stretched wide
took aim, first offering suppliant vow to Jove:
The Father heard, and from a cloudless sky
thundered to leftward, while the deadly bow
resounded and the arrow's fearful song
hissed from the string; it struck unswervingly
the head of Remulus and clove its way
deep in the hollows of his brow. “Begone!
Proud mocker at the brave!
Paizo, 4.
play on a musical instrument, h.Ap.206: c. acc., “Pan ho kalamophthogga paizōn” Ar.Ra.230; dance and sing, Pi. O.1.16. 5.
play amorously, “pros allēlous” X.Smp.9.2
Prospaizō, prospaizousa tois ōmois komē playing over, II.
c. acc., theous p. sing to the gods, sing in their praise or honour, Pl.Epin.980b: c. dupl. acc., humnon prosepaisamen . . ton . . Erōta sang a hymn in praise of Eros, Id.Phdr.265c. 2.
banter , “tous rhētoras” Id.Mx.235c, cf. Euthd.285a; p. ton kuna, ton arkton, , humnon pr. ton Erōt
and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him:
and the third day he shall rise again
AND JESUS THROUGH JOHN SAID THAT THE CRAFTSMEN (PARASITES), SINGERS
AND INSTRUMENT PLAYERS ARE "LUSTED AFTER FRUITS"" AND THEY WILL BE CAST ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
ONCE PEOPLE HAVE LIED
TO GOD, ABOUT GOD AND THE OWNERS OF CONGREGATIONS THE BIBLE AND OTHER
LITERATURE SAYS THIS IS A MARK THAT YOU HAVE FALLEN AND WILL NEVER GET
BACK UP.
There are probably a dozen more things that could go on this list but
I think these are some big shifts that have influenced our direction.
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