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ABOMINATION
THE TRINITY PRODUCES MOTHER GODDESS WORSHIP: MUSICIAN ARE THE ABOMINATION.

Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness:
        and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast,
         full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. [coronets?]
Rev. 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour,
        and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls,
        having a golden cup in her hand full of
        abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev. 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written,
        MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS
        OF THE EARTH.

Matthew 24.15 "When, therefore, you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),

Prophet-es One who speaks for a god and interprets his will to man, Dios p. interpreter, expounder of the will of Zeus, of Tiresias. Especially of the Delphic APOLLO- APOLLYON, “Dios p. esti Loxias patros” A.Eu.19; of the minister and interpreter at Delphi, Hdt.8.36,37;
3. interpreter, expounder of the utterances of the mantis [locusts-muses] (q.v.), Pl.Ti.72a: hence, of Poets, “Pieridōn p.” Pi.Pae.6.6; “Mousan p.” B.8.3, cf. Pl.Phdr.262d.

Mousan theias antiluron mousas [playing the lyre and singing.] moisan pherein” [Music IS the Laded Burden] “adein adokimon m.” 3. disreputable, discredited, reprobate,

B. Phoe-bēus , a, um, adj., Phœbean, Apollinean: “carmina,” Lucr. 2, 504: “lampas,” the sun, Verg. A. 4, 6: “virgo,” Daphne, Ov. P. 2, 2, 82: “laurus,” id. Tr. 4, 2, 51: “Rhodos,” where the worship of Apollo prevailed, id. M. 7, 365: “lyra,” id. H. 16, 180: “sortes,” oracle, id. M. 3, 130: “tripodes,” id. A. A. 3, 789: “Phoebeā morbos pellere arte,” id. F. 3, 827.—

Female Worship Leater C. Phoebas , ădis, f., a PRIESTESS of Apollo; hence the inspired one, the PROPHETESS Ov. Am. 2, 8, 12; id. Tr. 2, 400; Luc. 5, 128; 165.

-therap-ōn henchman, attendant [1] “Mousaōn [2] therapontes”

[1]   Mousa music, song [3 below] stu^ger-os , Mousa “kanakhan .       theias antiluron mousas”
        II. mousa, as Appellat., music, song, “m. stugera” A.Eu.308
      Muses as: moisan pherein    LADED BURDEN
Muses as: adokim-os , disreputable, discredited, reprobate,
   Muses as: “kanakhan . . theias antiluron mousas
                        clanging and harp-player

ADDED 10.12.22

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑
3:40 AM - Jun 20
Donnie.Cruz:

Throughout the epistles (beginning with Romans), greetings to churches and individual Christians were coming only from God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. What happened to greetings from the Holy Spirit "person"?

REPLY:

The Trinity Dogma's "The Holy Spirit" (as the 3rd 'PERSON') Is Missing

in These Greetings Both from God and from Jesus in the Epistles

Was Paul, as well as other apostles or authors, wrong in omitting the Trinitarian's "Holy Spirit" -- the 3rd "person" in these greetings?

The epistles were addressed to the churches in Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse, and Thessalonica; to Timothy, Titus, Philemon, and others. It is remarkable that these greetings uniformly come: (a) from THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, THE FATHER and (b) from THE MAN JESUS CHRIST, THE SON OF GOD.

Is there really the Holy Spirit, or the Holy Ghost, as the 3rd PERSON espoused in the Trinity dogma? If so, we have no evidence to support that claim other than human speculation or what was invented by the Roman Church in the early centuries with strong influences from the Roman government and paganism.

This is not to say that we ignore or reject this passage: "And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption" (Ephesians 4:30). The "holy Spirit of God" is not a name. Oh! God's Spirit belongs to God.

Here are the passages that support the observations expressed above -- that there is ONLY ONE GOD the FATHER and ONE SON of GOD, the man Jesus Christ:

Romans 1:[7] To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Cor. 1:[3] Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Cor. 1:[2] Grace be to you and peace from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Gal. 1:[3] Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ,
Eph. 1:[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Phil. 1:[2] Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
Col. 1:[2] To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. [3] We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you
1 Thess. 1:[1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Thess. 1:[1] Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: [2] Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Tim. 1:[2] Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
2 Tim. 1:[2] To Timothy, my dearly beloved son: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord.
Titus 1:[4] To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
Philemon 1:[3] Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Heb. 1:[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, [2] Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
James 1:[1] James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
1 Peter 1:[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
2 Peter 1:[2] Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord
1 John 1:[3] That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
2 John 1:[3] Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
3 John 1:[1] The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
Jude 1:[1] Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: [2] Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑

3:40 AM - Jun 20
Question: In the book of John, it's all about the relationship between the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. The Trinity's Holy Spirit as a "PERSON" is not involved in the communication between the Father and the Son. Why is that?

REPLY: HOLY SPIRIT "PERSON" MISSING IN FATHER-SON RELATIONSHIP IN JOHN.
Reply:

Holy Spirit "Person" Missing in Jesus' Relationship with "My Father"

in the Book of John

This post also deals with "the Holy Spirit" -- identified as a "PERSON" and gender-assigned as a "HE" in/by the man-made Trinity Creed. Sadly and unfortunately: because I don't believe it was God's intention to confuse humanity with man's idea that there are "Three Persons in One God" or that "God in Three Persons" is scriptural or that there are three co-Gods. (Part of a future discussion will be about references in the Scripture regarding the Spirit of God identified by Trinitarians as a "Person" with the pronoun of "He" instead of "it" wherever a pronoun is needed in translation.)

The Trinity dogma clearly opposes the truth that the Father is the ONLY ONE true God without any exception. There are numerous passages that support this truth and none that supports the human creed.

In the gospels, we find parallel accounts of the life of Christ. I have just done some research and searches. While the expression "my Father" occurs frequently in the gospels, I have observed that the book of John has "my Father" with the most number of occurrences.

These 35 references do not mention "the Spirit" along with the expression "my Father." Instead, we read "I" and "me" and "my" and "myself" in reference to Jesus, the Son of God. In other words, these are narratives and proclamations of the relationship and communication between God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ. Can't we safely say that the "PERSON" of the Holy Spirit (of the Trinity creed) was not involved or engaged in the conversation between God and Jesus?

Below are some of the passages that make the point for us -- the Father is the ONLY ONE true and living God and His Son Jesus Christ sent to earth to do His Father's will. "My Father":

Timothy silences both male and female beyond PREACHING by READING the Word once each week.

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
1Tim. 2:7 Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.

John 5:17 -- My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
John 5:43 -- I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:
John 10:25 -- Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
John 10:30 -- I and my Father are one. (United-Unamonous0
John 10:37 -- If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
John 14:21 -- He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
John 14:28 -- Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. (We will cover/discover who the Comforter really is in this passage and in other passages in the future.)
John 15:1 -- I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
John 15:10 -- If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
John 16:10 -- Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more
John 20:17 -- Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Other references to "my Father" and Jesus not listed above:

John 2:16 ... 6:32 ... 6:65 ... 8:19 ... 8:28 ... 8:38 ... 8:49 ... 8:54
John 10:17 ... 10:18 ... 10:29 ... 10:32 ... 12:26 ... 14:2 ... 14:7
John 14:12 ... 14:20 ... 14:23 ... 15:8 ... 15:15 ... 15:23 ... 15:24
John 18:11 ... 20:21

So, is God's own Spirit a "Person"? Is God's own holy Spirit "God"?

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑

12:36 AM - Oct 26

Conversion: In the name of Jesus Christ. When the remission of sins is the result in the salvation process, the required baptism is not in the name of God the Father; it is not in the name of the holy Spirit of God, but it is in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!

Acts 2[38] … Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghos

REPLY: WHAT IS THE GIFT OF [ ] "HOLY SPIRIT" AFTER OBEDIENCE IN BAPTISM

What Is the Gift of [ ] "Holy Spirit"

When Sins Are Remitted in Baptism?

In studying countless scriptural references that debunk the pagan- and Catholic-originated Trinity dogma, we've also come to learn that baptism is only in the name of Jesus Christ.

Concerning baptism, please read each of these passages in its entirety or if already familiar, simply review the highlighted words and expressions as shown in the preceding post -- Acts 2:38; Acts 8:12; Acts 8:16; Acts 10:48; Acts 19:5; Acts 22:16; Rom. 6:3; Gal. 3:27.

Baptism results in the washing of sins away or the remission of sins or the forgiveness of sins. And the gift of _____________ shall be obtained. Wonder "what" that gift is? The Trinitarian follower would rather say: "Who" is that gift? Let's find out below.

Acts 2:38 is the passage chosen here for this particular study because it encompasses both elements that are commonly discussed: (1) baptism in whose name and (2) the "gift" received.

"Then Peter said unto them,

Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ

for the remission of sins,

and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38, KJV)

BE BAPTIZED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. We are not discussing here the Catholic way of baptism by sprinkling or pouring -- and that negates what the scriptural method and examples portray. Nor the Baptist way that one is immersed after having become a Christian -- a concept that negates the scriptural purpose of baptism.

Eusebius accurately quoted from the original manuscript when Jesus, who was given all power and authority by His God and Father, personally said: "Go ye and make disciples of all the nations IN MY NAME." Unfortunately, Latin corruption got involved in the transcription of the text in Matthew 28 by altering Jesus' own words from "in my name" to the invented name of the "Three Persons in One God" -- a completely manufactured concept which Jesus himself did not utter. The writer Luke was in agreement with Jesus and Eusebius who, a couple of centuries later, consistently quoted Jesus when he commissioned his followers to make disciples in the name of Jesus.

Baptism or burial into Jesus Christ is synonymous with baptism or burial in the name of Jesus:

Baptism into his (Christ's) death is NOT baptism into the death of the Father, his God (Rom. 6:3)
Baptism into his (Christ's) death is NOT baptism into the death of God's Spirit (Rom. 6:3)
Putting on Christ in baptism is NOT putting on God the Father in baptism (Gal. 3:27)
Putting on Christ in baptism is NOT putting on God's spirit in baptism (Gal. 3:27)
Can you imagine substituting the "Three Persons" for "him" and substituting "them" for "him" in Colossians 2:12? “Buried with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit in baptism, wherein also you are risen with them through the faith of the operation of God, who has raised them from the dead.”
Can you imagine calling on the name of "the Three Persons" instead of "the name of the Lord" in Acts 22:16? “Arise, and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the NAME of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”
There are many other passages that the name of Jesus might be replaced with the name of "the Three Persons" the Trinity way inappropriately!!!

YE SHALL RECEIVE THE GIFT OF A HOLY SPIRIT. Note the following:

In New Testament Greek, the are no capitalization rules. In various translations or versions of the Bible, capitalization of the words "Holy" and "Spirit" are based on either the English grammatical rules or the translator's preconceived view of the Trinity Creed.
We are using the word "spirit" instead of "ghost" preferably for simplification, since both words are interchangeable in the Scripture.
In our study below, we are opting not to capitalize the words "holy" and "spirit" wherever referenced singly or together.

Notice "THE GIFT OF [] HOLY SPIRIT" above? It's to get your attention, to wonder why? This portion of the text in Acts 2:38 is rendered as follows in Greek:
Donnie.Holy.Spirit.Words.jpg

No further explanation there as to the difference between the literal translation and the Trinitarian translation which creates the illusion that the gift to be obtained is the 3rd Person of the Trinity -- the "Holy Spirit."

The trinitarian argument is to include the word "the" as part of the entire phrase "the Holy Spirit" to justify the notion that the 3rd Person of the Trinity is the gift. That should not be the case as the Greek word "tou" is actually translated as "of-the" -- a combination of the words "of" and "the" as the literal translation indicates.

The expression "holy spirit" (with the adjective "holy" modifying the noun "spirit") is not a proper name. The word "spirit" is not a proper noun even if it is an element or an essence of a divine being. The "spirit" in this case is modified by the word "holy"; thus, it can be stated as a "spirit that is holy."

In context, the proper translation (without considering capitalization rules in English) should be any of the following:

... shall receive the gift of the holy spirit (or "the spirit that is holy")
... shall receive the gift of a holy spirit (or "a spirit that is holy")
... shall receive the gift of holy spirit (or "spirit that is holy")

Why is not the gift of God the Father Himself? Why is it not the gift of Jesus Christ himself? Why does it have to be the Trinity-based belief that the gift refers to the 3rd Person of the Trinity? No, it is not; no, it does not have to be. This particular passage indicates none of the above.

This "tou hagiou pneumatos" is the only reference in Scripture associated with baptism. And there is a problem when a Trinitarian follower associates "the" with "holy spirit" and concludes that the 3rd Person ("the Holy Spirit") is the gift to be received.

No, there is no 3rd Person in the Godhead. God's Spirit is not a person; it is not a 3rd Person.

So, what is the gift of a holy spirit?

There are passages that support this truth that the new babe in Christ receives this gift of a holy spirit:

In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. (Ephesians 1:7)
In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins (Colossians 1:14)
Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19)
The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ (I Peter 3:21)

In having redemption through the blood of Christ, when sins are forgiven, when guilt is removed, when conscience is pure and clean and clear, when refreshing comes -- THE GIFT OF A HOLY SPIRIT IS RECEIVED.

In Isaiah 55, water is WORD Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html
In John 6:63
    John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth;
          the flesh profiteth nothing:
          the words that I speak unto you,
          they are spirit, and they are life.

John 4:10 Jesus answered and said unto her,
        If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee,
        Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him,
        and he would have given thee living water.

Acts 8:20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee,
        because thou hast thought that the gift of God
        may be purchased with money.

Eph. 4:7 But unto every one of us is given grace
         according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

2Tim. 1:6 Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of God,
         which is in thee by the putting on of my hands.

Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
        which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
        and to the SPIRITS of just men made PERFECT,

1Cor. 15:45 And so it is written,
The first man Adam was made a living soul;
the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

SEARCHING FOR AN ANSWER
IS "GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT" FOUND IN SCRIPTURE? WE WAIT FOR AN ANSWER.
11.26.22 update

Is "God the Holy Spirit" found in the Scripture? Where? Let us know soon.
What is the difference between the man-made belief of "God the Holy Spirit" and "the holy Spirit of God"? Title:

What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part A

There are 174 passages that reference "the Spirit of God" in the Scripture. Only about 25 are listed below, but they contain the various expressions from the 170+ passages regarding "the Spirit." We need to review and study these passages very carefully and with an open mind. Hint: Look for those little words that might/will help us determine if there is really that 3rd "Person" commonly referred to as "God the Holy Spirit."

(We've used solely the KJV for searches and the version's translation.)

Here are selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the Old Testament (KJV):

Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me. (Psa. 51:11)
But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them. (Isa. 63:10)
Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people, saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock? where is he that put his holy Spirit within him? (Isa. 63:11)
Gen.1 [2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. (Gen. 1:2)
Gen.41 [38] And Pharaoh said unto his servants, Can we find such a one as this is, a man in whom the Spirit of God is? (Gen.41:38)
And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, (Exo. 31:3)
All the while my breath is in me, and the spirit of God is in my nostrils; (Job 27:3)
And the Spirit of the LORD came upon him, and he judged Israel, and went out to war: and the LORD delivered Chushan-rishathaim king of Mesopotamia into his hand; and his hand prevailed against Chushan-rishathaim. (Judg. 3:10)
But the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet; and Abi-ezer was gathered after him. (Judg. 6:34)

Here are selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the New Testament (KJV):

But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. (Rom. 8:11)
But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. (I Cor. 2:10)
That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man; (Eph. 3:16)
Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. (I John 4:13)
He therefore that despiseth, despiseth not man, but God, who hath also given unto us his holy Spirit. (I Thess. 4:8)
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? (Luke 11:13)
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. (Eph. 4:30)
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:4)
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: (Matt. 3:16)
But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. (Matt. 12:28)
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (Rom. 8:9)
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Rom. 8:14)
Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ. (Rom. 15:19)
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. (I Cor. 2:11)
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? (I Cor. 3:16)
Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: (I John 4:2)

NEXT: 12.8.22 post

NEXT: What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part B
NEXT: The Spirit of God -- Gender-Assigned By the Pagan- and Catholic-Originated Trinity Dogma
NEXT: What Is "the Holy Spirit"? (NOT: Who Is "the Holy Spirit"?) -- Part Bfthy

Here are additional selected passages that deal with what's commonly referred to as "THE HOLY SPIRIT" in the New Testament (KJV):

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. (II Cor. 3:3)
And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. (I Cor. 6:11)
For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. (Matt. 10:20)

As mentioned earlier, the KJV solely is used for searches and for citing its translation of passages. The number of occurrences of the word “spirit” (259 times in OT, 323 times in NT) with its varied use almost defies analysis and requires the patience of Job. Since the last post, we have added searches for “the Spirit” and identified which passages are associated with “the Spirit of God the Father.” We have excluded references to “the spirit” that is associated with man and natural things. So we now have about 240 passages, instead of 174, that are related to the subject matter. A variation of expressions related to “the Spirit of God” seems unnecessarily complex. Hopefully, the chart below has simplified the issue of what (not “who”) the Spirit of God really is.
Donnie.Expression.Phrase.jpg

The Word “Spirit” Defined: The Hebrew word for “spirit” in the Old Testament is ruah. It is used more often of God than of persons or animals, accordingly—that’s good to know. When “’the Spirit of God’ moved upon the face of the waters” at creation (Gen. 1:2), God’s Spirit was power/a wind sweeping over the waters. Therefore, the Spirit of God was involved with creation. Job 33:4 speaks of “the breath of the Almighty.” (When applied to a person, “spirit” comes to mean strength, feelings, will.)

In the New Testament, pneuma is the Greek word for “spirit.” The Holy Ghost was active on the day of Pentecost—there came a sound from heaven as of a “rushing mighty wind” (Acts 1, 2). Rom. 15:19 speaks of the power of the Spirit of God. God’s Spirit dwells in Christians (I Cor. 3:16). There are numerous passages in the Scripture that indicate wisdom, understanding, knowledge, discernment on the part of God’s Spirit that clearly speak of the mind of God.

In summary, the Spirit of God has its different attributes: power, wind, breath, mind, and indweller. And the type of role of the Spirit is relevant to a particular dispensation or event—creation is not happening again; the day of Pentecost occurred two millennia ago.

Some of the Claims Made By Trinitarian Advocates Concerning “the Holy Spirit”:

Claim: “You may know him by name and know that he’s mentioned(*) during a baptism but have no idea who he is, how he is at work in your life, or whether or not you should even care.” (*We’ve already learned that the evolving Roman Church changed the text in the original manuscript in Matt. 28:18-20 to its own baptism formula.)
Claim: “The Holy Spirit is a person, not impersonal force or influence.”
Claim: “The Holy Spirit is more than a force—He’s a Person.”
Claim: “Make no mistake, the Holy Spirit is so much more than an it or impersonal force—he’s God.”
Claim: “The Holy Spirit is treated as equal to God the Father and Son.”
Claim: “The Holy Spirit is called by several names, such as ‘the Comforter.’”
Claim: The Catholic Trinity Creed—“We believe that the one God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience.”

Observations:

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” John 4:24). This is not to be confused with the claim that “God the Holy Spirit” is the 3^rd Person of the Catholic Trinity. This passage simply means that God is not composed of flesh and blood and bones; He is “spirit” and is not a human who literally came to earth.
“God the Holy Ghost”—Do you wonder how many times you’ve seen this expression before? The implication might be that God is a Ghost … a holy Ghost?
“God the Holy Spirit”—so Trinitarian! This is not found in the Bible.
“The Holy Spirit”—the Trinitarian preference! This expression is found only ONCE in the Bible: Luke 11:13 (see chart). Compare that expression with the others, e.g., “the Spirit of God” or “the Spirit of the Lord”; etc.

The Words That Debunk the Human Idea That “God the Holy Spirit” Is Person #3 of the Trinity Family:

Expression: “the Holy Spirit”—this phrase is mentioned only ONCE in the entire Bible (Luke 11:13). It is not even mentioned in the Old Testament. Yet the Catholic Trinity creed conveniently uses “the Holy Spirit” (rather than “the Holy Ghost” and other designations) in promoting the idea that the Trinity includes these “Persons”:

God the Father (scriptural: John 6:27; I Cor. 8:6; Gal. 1:1,3; Eph. 6:23; etc.)
God the Son (not a single scripture supports this human idea)
God the Holy Spirit (not a single scripture supports this man-made concept)

The definite article “the” precedes “Holy Spirit.” The word “the” disqualifies the entire expression from being a proper name; rather, it is a description. We cannot equate “the Holy Spirit” (“spirit” modified by “holy) to God. In John 17:1-3, Jesus Christ addressed his Father, “the hour is come … that they might know thee the only true God….” Because of the word “ONLY” in that passage, it excludes everyone else from being God; even Jesus Christ is not God!

Expression: “his holy spirit”—the significance of this phrase is ignored by Trinity followers and overlooked by others by not emphasizing the possessive pronoun “his” in the expression. “His” strongly suggests belongingness and being part of a whole. So, whose “spirit” is it? Is it the spirit of a spirit? I think not! Is it “the spirit of Christ? I think not, since Christ is not God but instead is the Son of God. Scripture says: it is the Spirit of God! (Isa. 63:10,11; I Thess. 4:8)

Expression: “thy holy spirit”—the significance of this phrase is also ignored by Trinity followers and overlooked by others by not emphasizing the possessive pronoun [although archaic] “thy” in the expression. “Thy” strongly suggests belongingness. Only one OT passage indicates this (Psa. 51:11); it is in reference to “the Spirit of the LORD.”

Expression: “his Spirit”—mentioned once in the OT and 4 times in the NT. “His” is a possessive pronoun that indicates possession, of course. This is neither in reference to the Spirit of Christ nor to the spirit of a spirit. Rather, it’s in reference to the Spirit of God. This passage clearly states it: “But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God” (I Cor. 2:10).

Expression: “the Spirit of your Father”—the Father is the only true God, Jesus himself declared it. Again, “your” is a possessive pronoun. The preposition “of” also indicates possession. With “of” and “your,” this cannot be wrong: God the Father owns “the Spirit.” (Matt. 8:20)

Expression: “the Spirit of our God”—the preposition “of” and the possessive pronoun “our” clearly indicate possession. Only God the Father can make that claim. (I Cor. 6:11)

Expression: “the Spirit of the living God”—this is found in II Cor. 3:3. The preposition “of” indicates possession. “The living God” is only the Father.

Expression: “the Holy Ghost”—over 80 occurrences in the New Testament; it is not mentioned a single time in the Old Testament. (I believe that Trinitarians conveniently use “God the Holy Spirit” instead of “God the Holy Ghost” when referring to the Catholic Trinity dogma’s 3^rd Person.) It is noteworthy that the Holy Ghost had its role at the time of the birth of Christ and at Pentecost.

Expression: “the holy Spirit of God”—is mentioned only once in the N.T. but powerfully declares that the 3^rd Person of the Trinity dogma is not a distinct “person.” The preposition “of” clearly indicates possession. It is God’s Spirit, which is holy, that we are not to grieve.

Expression: “the Spirit of God”—an expression frequently mentioned in both the O.T. (14 times) and N.T. (11 times). The preposition “of” indicates possession, thus, God has a “spirit.” It is an essence or an attribute of God, in referring to part of God’s nature—wind, breath, power, will, mind.

Expression: “the Spirit of the LORD [or Lord]”—an expression frequently mentioned in both the O.T. (26 times) and N.T. (5 times). The preposition “of” indicates possession, thus, the Lord has a “spirit.” It is an essence or an attribute of God manifested at creation or in the Old Testament dispensation or at Pentecost or in today’s Christian living.

Expression: “the Spirit of truth, …”—expressions that refer to Christ. This is not to be confused with “the Spirit of God” and other expressions listed above. There is much confusion regarding who “the Comforter” really is. When “the Spirit of truth … shall be in you” (John 14:17) is expressed as some future event, it contradicts the truth about the Spirit of God being in the present (not in the future). Remember Jesus saying: “I am the way, the truth and the life”? This will be another topic of conversation.
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The structure of the expression “the Spirit of God” can be explained in this simple manner. With “spirit” defined as wind, breath, power, will or mind, these words are not proper nouns. Illustrations:

The nose of Durante is not Durante himself.
The big nose of Durante is not Durante himself.
The mind of Einstein is not Einstein himself.
The bright mind of Einstein is not Einstein himself.

Conclusion I am very much in favor of expressing or identifying “the Spirit” as simply “the Spirit of God” or “the Spirit of the Lord” or “the Spirit of our God.” The preposition “of” and the possessive pronoun “our” [or thy, his, your] will help me more clearly understand the truth that “the Spirit OF God” is not a “Person” and is not the 3^rd Person that the Catholic Trinity dogma claims.

SUMMARY: GENDER-ASSIGNED AND ALL ARGUMENTS ARE PAGAN-CATHOLIC

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Jun 20, 2022

Is "God the Holy Spirit" found in the Scripture?

The Spirit of God: Gender-Assigned By the Pagan-Influenced and Catholic-Invented Trinity Dogma

We have learned about the pagan- and Catholic-originated Trinity dogma from earlier posts:

That the Trinity did not exist and was not debated in Old Testament times; that it was neither a topic of conversation nor a subject of controversy in the first century church because of its non-existence.
That with the prevalent pagan view of multiple gods and goddesses, as well as post-apostolic arguments concerning “the Son of God” and “the Spirit of God” as God the Father’s co-equals as “God,” the Trinity Creed was made official by the ever-evolving Roman Church in the 4th century.
That certain texts, sadly and unfortunately, are spurious as a result of original manuscripts being tampered with: (Matt. 28:18-20 – “… make disciples … in my name” was changed to “… baptizing … in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost….”) and (I John 5:7 – “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” This passage is missing in the oldest Greek manuscripts of the book of I John. It is found in rare cases only around the 15th century A.D.)
That the Holy Spirit (Trinity’s 3rd Person) was not included in greetings to churches and individuals by (a) God and (b) Jesus (in the epistles).
That the Holy Spirit (Trinity’s 3rd Person) was not involved in (a) God’s and (b) Jesus’ communication and relationship (mainly in the book of John).
That the expression “the Holy Spirit” (mentioned only once in the New Testament/Bible) has other equivalent expressions (“the Spirit of God” … “the Spirit of the Lord”) that describe more fully and indicate that “the spirit” is an essence that belongs to God the Father and is NOT a Person.

But the fabricated and fallacious Trinity doctrine, invented by the Roman Church, accepted and promoted by most Protestant Churches, is unquestionably popular; it is embraced by and being taught in some churches of Christ.

Proponents of the doctrine claim that “the Holy Spirit” is the 3^rd Person of the Trinity family because of functions and roles performed by Person #3. So, as a “Person” (and only a “person” can do it, of course), “the Spirit of God [Person?] does the following as claimed: guide your prayers … make you more like Christ … involved in the process of sanctification … help you to do the Father’s will … etc. Since “the Spirit of the Lord” can behave and act like God Himself, does that make His Spirit a separate “Person”? Subsequently, the Trinity dogma has gender-assigned “the Spirit OF God” with a “He” pronoun. The Bible doesn’t say anything about the personhood of “the Spirit of God.” Only the Trinity follower can make that assumption and claim such an assumption as “truth.”

Just a recent observation that’s in the news (you may access the clip directly or link to my documentation):

Priest close to the Pope is accused of inviting two nuns to take part in a 'Holy Trinity' threesome

Trinity_Priest to take part in a 'Holy Trinity' threesome.pdf (529.42 KiB) 3: Priest and Holy Trinity

LEARNING PRONOUNDS TO DETERMINE THE GENDER OF "THE SPIRIT OF GOD" WIDELY KNOWN AS "THE HOLY SPIRIT."

Learning Pronouns to Determine the Gender of “the Spirit of God”—widely known as “the Holy Spirit”

There are different types of pronouns (at least 10), but I would like to review a few of them: Personal pronouns, Relative pronouns, Possessive pronouns, Reflexive pronouns, etc. (It would be best to access the following link: https://www.grammarly.com/blog/pronouns/ for more information.) Here are a few simple rules:

Relative pronouns—traditionally, who refers to people, and which and that refer to animals or things.
Reflexive pronouns—end in -self or -selves: myself, himself, itself, etc.

I found only one passage referenced by Trinitarians as their proof that “the Holy Spirit” is certainly a “Person” and masculine. Even then, the passage is referring to Jesus Christ and his Spirit—and NOT to the Spirit of God the Father:

John 14 [17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

It is significant to note that the Trinity-influenced translator deviated from its proper and accurate translation—“of truth” should be “of the truth” (Jesus said: I am the way, the truth, and the life). The correct translation for the words “him” and “he” is the pronoun “it.” Therefore, the incorrect translation of pronouns invalidates the only “proof” that Trinitarians have concerning the gender of “the Holy Spirit.”

In fact, there are other passages that confirm the Spirit of Christ, the Son of God:

Gal 4 [6] And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Phil 1 [19] For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ
1 Peter 1 [11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

The moment of truth … the crux of the matter … unbeknownst to the Trinity believers, the following passages as translated indicate that with the use of proper relative pronouns and reflexive pronouns, “the Spirit of the Lord”—a.k.a. the Spirit of God the Father—is not a Person. “God the Holy Spirit” is not found in the Bible:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: (Rom. 8:16)
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. (Rom. 8:26)
(But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) (John 7:39)
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. (I Cor. 2:12)
For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Cor. 11:4)
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. (I John 3:24)
And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: (Matt. 3:16)
For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. (Matt. 10:20)
And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: (Mark 1:10)

Those words—the preposition “of” … the article “the” … the pronouns “which” and “itself” and “it”—that help debunk the Trinity doctrine!!! Let’s not misuse them or consider them as insignificant!

JESUS “the Son of man” IS FULLY HUMAN
While the Trinitarian claim is that Jesus is both fully God (of which the Bible doesn’t say) and fully human, it is clear that the humanity of Jesus is evident throughout the New Testament. But where did the notion that Jesus is God or fully God come from? To answer that question partly, we need to consider the translation process. (Hint: “Most Bible translators are Trinitarian, and their bias appears in various places in their translation….”)

While the notion that Jesus is God or fully God is debatable between Trinity followers and those who are not, there is no debate that Jesus Christ is fully human. Nonetheless, we should be knowledgeable that in the New Testament, there are more than 80 references to Jesus Christ as “the Son of man.” (Note that Jesus Christ is also “the Son of God.” We will discuss this matter separately.)

Here are 23 of the 80+ passages that refer to Jesus as “the Son of man” (using the KJV for searches):

Matt.8[20] And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.
Matt.12[8] For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Matt.12[40] For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Matt.16[27] For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matt.16[28] Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Matt.18[11] For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.
Matt.20[28] Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Matt.25[31] When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Matt.26[45] Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Mark.2[28] Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Mark.8[31] And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mark.9[31] For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mark.14[62] And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Luke.6[5] And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
Luke.18[31] Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.
Luke.19[10] For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Luke.22[69] Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.
John.6[27] Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.
John.8[28] Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
John.12[23] And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.
John.12[34] The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?
John.13[31] Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.
Acts.7[56] And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.

There are other passages in which Jesus does not speak of himself as “the Son of man,” but they clearly explain that Jesus Christ is a true human being—he was indeed a man:

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (Acts 2:22)
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (Acts 17:31)
But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. (Romans 5:15)
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (I Timothy 2:5)

Scripture clearly states that God is not a man:

God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? (Numbers 23:19)
And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor repent: for he is not a man, that he should repent. (I Samual 15:29)

Donnie.Cruz wrote: ↑
Jun 20, 2022

Why is Jesus referred to as the Son of God but not as "Jesus is God"?

Why is Jesus referred to as the Son of man but not as "Jesus is God"?

3.09.23
JESUS "THE SON OF GOD"- IS HE GOD?

It is very clear that there are two but separate entities or beings described in John 17—one is spiritual: God the Father; the other is human: Jesus Christ the Son. God has declared that He is “NOT a man” and that He is not “the son of man” (Numbers 23:19; I Samuel 15:29). Jesus himself has declared that he is “the Son of man”—we learned earlier that there are over 80 passages that reference Jesus as “the Son of man.” And we’re about to learn that Jesus is also “the Son of God.” Now—in John 17:

John 17:1 These words spake
        Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said,
        Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son,
        that thy Son also may glorify thee:
John 17:2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh,
        that he should give eternal life to AS MANY AS THOU HAST GIVEN HIM
John 17:3 And this is life eternal,
        that they might know thee
        the ONLY TRUE GOD
        AND
        Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth:
         I have finished the work which THOU gavest me to do.
John 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify
        thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee
        before the world was.

[1] These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
[2] As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
[3] And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
[4] I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

Hebrews 5:8 tells us: “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered.” Keyword is “obedience”—the Son obeyed the God; we don’t expect God to obey anyone.

John 10:29 states: “My Father … greater than all” including Jesus.

I Cor. 3:23 – “And ye are Christ's; and Christ is God's.” Simply: we belong to Christ and Christ belongs to God.

I Corinthians 8:5,6 explains that there is but one God, the Father.

There are more references about God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ (more of this to be covered later). So, although the Scripture teaches us that Jesus is exalted far above all other created intelligences, he is a being distinct from God the Father; he is inferior to his Father; he is dependent upon the Father Almighty.

What is not clear about Jesus being the Son of God—and not God as the Father is?

Why does/should the Trinity dogma make it unnecessarily difficult for God’s followers to accept the truth that Jesus is “the Son of God”—and is not the 2^nd Person of the “Trinity” family?

Here are several of the 40+ passages about Jesus as “the Son of God”—sent to earth by God the Father in heaven two millennia ago. These passages declare that Jesus is “the Son of God,” whereas there is not a single passage that declares that Jesus is God—which the Trinity creed claims:

HOWEVER, Num. 23:19 GOD IS NOT A MAN that he should lie;
        neither the SON OF MAN that he should repent:
        hath he said, and shall he not do it?
        or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet,
        that it is I myself: handle me, and see;
        for a SPIRIT hath not FLESH AND BONES, as ye see me have.

Matt. 8[29] And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Matt. 26[63] But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.
Matt. 27[40] And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.
Matt. 27[43] He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.
Matt. 27[54] Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Mark 1[1] The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
Mark 15[39] And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Luke 8[28] When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not.
Luke 22[70] Then said they all, Art thou then the Son of God? And he said unto them, Ye say that I am.
John 1[34] And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
John 3[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 11 [27] She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.
John 20[31] But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 8[37] And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Gal. 2[20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Eph. 4[13] Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Heb. 4[14] Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
1 John 4[15] Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
1 John 5[5] Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1 John 5 [10] He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

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I will add more links and Donnie will add new material. In contrast, there is not a single passage in context which indicates that the Spirit OF God is another God.

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Deut. 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess,
        hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners:
        but as for thee, the Lord thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.
Deut. 18:15 The Lord [yhwh] thy God [elohim singular] will raise up
        unto thee a PROPHET
        from the MIDST of thee, of thy BRETHREN,
        LIKE unto ME; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deut. 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the Lord thy God
        in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying,
        Let me not hear again the VOICE of the Lord my God,
        neither let me see this great FIRE any more, that I die not.

Acts 3:21 Whom the HEAVEN must receive
        until the times of restitution of all things,
        which God hath SPOKEN by the MOUTH
        of all his holy PROPHET since the world began.
Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
        A PROPHET shall the Lord your God RAISE up unto you
        OF your BRETHREN, LIKE unto me;
        him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass,
        that every soul, which will not hear that PROPHET,
        shall be destroyed from among the people.

1Tim. 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved,
        and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1Tim. 2:5 For there is one God,
        and one mediator between God and men,
        the MAN Christ Jesus;
1Tim. 2:6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.


http://www.pineycom.com/The.Spiritus.of.Divina.html Lectio-Divina or modern Wiccan traditions is known as *Drawing down the* Moon or Drawing down the Goddess (Adler, 1979). During classical times the ancient witches of Thessaly were reputed to control the moon. In the ritual of Drawing down the Moon the High Priestess of a coven attempts to achieve a state of trance and request that the Goddess, or Triple Goddess symbolised by the moon, enter her body and speak through her.

PROPHESYING AND JESUS MAKING THAT PROPHECY MORE CERTAIN.

The Prophetic Type by the Spirit OF Christ ISAIAH Dead Sea Scroll.

The Prophecy made more certain by Jesus Christ
rejecting baptism is rejecting Jesus

19. [+of iniquity+] (16) Wash and make yourselves clean and turn away the evil of your habitual practices from before my eyes, stop doing evil. (17) Learn

Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
Rachac (h7364) raw-khats'; a prim. root; to lave (the whole or a part of a thing): - bathe (self), wash (self).
Lavo: luthron; strengthened in louō,

20. to do well, pursue judgement, bless the oppressed,
      judge the orphan contend for the widow. (PP)
21. Please come and let us reason together says YHWH,
   if your sins are like scarlet they shall be white as snow
22. if they be as red as crimson they shall be as wool. (
      19) If you are obedient and you give heed then of the good of the Land [{you shall eat.}]
23. (20) BUT if you REFUSE and you REBEL you will be DEVOURED by the sword because the mouth of YHWH has said it.
24. (21) How is the faithful city become like a HARLOT, it was full of justice, righteousness lodged [{in her and now}]

Corrupting the Word or selling learning at retail.

He that believeth AND is baptized shall be SAVED.

Believeth pist-euô rely on a person, thing, or statement
2.COMPLY, hōs oukh hupeixōn oude pisteusōn legeis;
II entrust something to another; to COMPLY
Opposite. apisteō, Id.Tr.1228.

He that BELIEVETH NOT shall be DAMNED.

Apisteô to be apistos, and so, II. = apeitheô, to disobey, tini Hdt., attic: --absol. to be disobedient, refuse to comply

Soph. OT 625 Creon
[625] Are you resolved not to yield or believe?

Oedipus No, for you persuade me that you are unworthy of trust.

Soph. Trach. 1228
no, you, my son, must take her for your own.
Consent! (peithou:) To disrespect (apistein) me in small matters
destroys the greater favors (pisteusant) you have done.

Apisteô II. apeitheō, disobey, to be disobedient, tois apistousin tade in these things, they refuse to comply, to be faithless, to doubt that it could b

ANGELS-MUSICIANS-WINNOWING-BURNING
GOD ACTIVELY AND PERMISSIVELY SENDS ANGELS-EVANGELISTIS-WINNOWING-REAPING MUSICIANS

2Th. 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2Th. 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved
2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Matt. 13:38 The field is the world;
        the good SEED are the children of the KINGDOM;
        but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
Matt. 13:39 The enemy that sowed [dna] them is the DEVIL;
        the harvest is the end of the world; [Aion messianic Age]
        and the REAPERS are the ANGELS

Elders, if there be any APT are the only Pastor-Teachers of "That which has been taught" without any change because Scripture is the last will and Teatament (called Spirit Rev 19:10)

Aggellō , God's godly angel or evangelists keinois aggeilōsi . . oikonde neesthai may bring them word to return home,

THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE MARK OF BEING A STUDENT OF CHRIST

Rom. 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be SENT?
        as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them
        that preach the gospel of peace, [
        [Not speaking your own words Isaiah.55.Word.Spirit.html]

   and BRING glad tidings of good things!

g2097. euaggelizo, yoo-ang-ghel-id´-zo; from 2095 and 32; to announce good news (“evangelize”) especially the gospel: — declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel).

You cannot make disciples of Christ by baptism unless you have preached the Gospel.

1Cor. 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
         not with wisdom of words,
         lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

g4678. sophia, sof-ee´-ah; from 4680; wisdom (higher or lower, worldly or spiritual): — wisdom. 4680. sophos, sof-os´; akin to σαφής saphes (clear); wise (in a most general application): — wise. Compare 5429.

sophos , ē, on, A. skilled in any handicraft or art, clever, “mantis Margites Fr.2; but in this sense mostly of poets and musicians, Pi.O.1.9, P.1.42, 3.113; en kithara s. glōssē s. Muthos 2. fiction (Opposite. logos, historic truth)

Sophis-tês ,A. master of one's craft, adept, expert, of diviners, Hdt.2.49; of poets, “meletan sophistais prosbalon” Pi.I.5(4).28, cf. Cratin.2; of musicians, “sophistēs . . parapaiōn khelun” A.Fr.314, cf. Eup.447, Pl.Com. 140; sophistē Thrēki (sc. Thamyris) E.Rh.924, cf. Ath.14.632c: with modal words added, “hoi s. tōn hierōn melōn”
2. juggler, cheat, “deinos g. kai pharmakeus kai sophistēs” Pl.Smp.203d; “magos kai g.” Aeschin.3.137:

(religious melody: God does not speak to the wise or sophists Luke 10:21)

God also sends or Thrust In Angels of Light. Jesus defined the sons of the Devil as DOING (rhetoric, music, scenic, Pay To Play)

2Th. 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
Th. 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2Th. 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord,
because God hath from the beginning chosen you
to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit

Heb. 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits OF just men made perfect, [A holy spirit=yours]

Else you cannot read BLACK text on BROWN paper: Neither can you HEAR the word when it is PREACHED by being READ. 2 Corinthians 3. THEN you will understand that the Lord is that Spiri

and belief of the truth:

[Word, Logos Regulative Principle Opposite Rhetoric, Music Scenic:
delusion fraudulence; subjectively, a straying from orthodoxy or piety:

God sends forth MUSICIANS meaning to make the lambs dumb before the slaughter.
aggelos Arabios a., of a loquacious person, 2. generally, one that announces or tells, e.g. of birds of augury, Il.24.292,296; Mousōn aggelos,a. kai arkhaggeloi

Mousōn Dios aigiokhoio thugateres” Daughters whatever the sex led by Apollyon.
“kanakhan . .gnashing of teeth, clanging brass, k. aulōn sound of flutes, of the lyre
HH 3 185 To Pythian Apollo, Apollyon: Leto's all-glorious son goes to rocky Pytho, playing upon his hollow lyre, clad in divine, perfumed garments;
and his lyre, [185] at the TOUCH of the golden key, sings sweet.

2Th. 2:15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast,
and hold the traditions which ye have been taught,
whether by word, or our epistle.

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Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the HOLY SPIRIT	Acts 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, THAT your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing g403 recovery of breath, REVIVAL shall come from the presence of the Lord
Then Peter said unto them, repent	Repent ye therefore,
and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,	and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 2:38	when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; Ac.3:19
Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an APPEAL to God for A clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:21 Suneidesis (g4893) soon-i'-day-sis; from a prol. form of 4894; co- perception, i.e. moral consciousness; - conscience. Suneido (g4894) soon-i'-do; from 4862 and 1492 [SPIRITUAL EYES]; to see completely; used (like its prim.) only in two past tenses, respectively mean. to understand or become aware, and to be conscious or (clandestinely) informed of: - consider, know, be privy, be ware of	Refreshing is the Greek: Andronikos (g408) an-dron'-ee-kos; from 435 and 3534; man of victory; Andronicos, an Isr.: - Andronicus. Na-ti-vitasI. birth, nativity, municipem aut nativitas aut adoptio. 2. A generation: usque ad quartam nativitatem, Tert. adv. Marc. 4, 27 fin. adoptio

THERE IS NO "US" INVOLVED IN THE "ALL" THAT WAS CREATED.	Parable fulfilled
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning GOD created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1:6 And GOD SAID, Said is H559 Amar: think or use speech Genesis 1:9 And GOD said, Let the waters Genesis 1:26 And GOD said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:27 So GOD created man in HIS own image,	John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was GOD. John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. However, GOD made man in HIS image. Adam was a HE Image is h6754 tselem shade, make visible God's WORD is generated or begotten By God. Jesus was not the pagan son of a pagan god who had sex with a mortal.
Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, [inanis] and void; and darkness [ignorance] was upon the face of the deep. [Pit, hell] And the Spirit [Breath] of God moved [aggitated] upon the face of the waters.	John 1:3 All things were made by him; [GOD] and without GOD was not any thing made that was made.
Genesis 1:3 And GOD SAID, Let there be LIGHT: and there was light. God created HIS LIGHT or HIS WORD.	John 1:4 In him [GOD] was life; and the life was the LIFE of men
Genesis 1:4 And GOD saw the LIGHT, that it was good:	John 1:5 And the LIGHT shineth in darkness;
and God divided the light from the darkness. tĕnē^brae 1. The darkness of night, night, IGNORANCE II. Trop., darkness, gloom, obscurity of the mind, did not Repent lucem B. Light, encouragement, help, succor: D. Light, illustration, elucidation: “historia testis temporum, lux veritatis E. That which enlightens, the source of illumination: RATIO (Regulative Principle]	And the darkness comprehended it not. tĕnē^brae 1. The darkness of night, night, IGNORANCE II. Trop., darkness, gloom, obscurity of the mind, did not Repent Skot-ios , I. of persons, in the dark, in secret, secret, com-prĕhendo apprehend; to comprehend, comprise A. To comprehend by the sense of sight, to perceive, observe, To comprehend something intellectually, to receive into one's mind, Katalambanō , 3. seize with the mind, comprehend, 4. accept, Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly RECEIVED his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
Genesis 1:5 And God called [addressed by name] the LIGHT Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.	John 1:7 The same [John] came for a witness, to bear witness of the LIGHT, that all men through him might believe. John 1:8 He was not that LIGHT, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
Genesis 1:6 And God SAID, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.	John 1:9 That was the true LIGHT, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. God created HIS LIGHT or HIS WORD.

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